| 19 Dec 2024 |
 Tomodachi94 (they/them) | The funny thing with Java is that newer versions can compile to bytecode that is compatible with older Java versions (up to a certain limit; support in latest for compiling to Java 8 was on its way out, last I checked) | 19:27:43 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | (e.g. https://stackoverflow.com/a/33483644/14508745) | 19:31:17 |
| 20 Dec 2024 |
|  Frédéric Christ changed their display name from Frédéric Christ to Frédéric Christ 🎄23.12. - 07.01.. | 13:02:59 |
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 nbathum | anyone else use IntelliJ IDEA and gradle? I finally got annoyed with working around the disconnect between building with wrapper and inside IDEA. | 20:38:11 |
| nbathum | since gradle.override { javaToolchains = [ pkgs.openjdk21 ]; } is nice I put a small PR up that also writes the toolchains into $out/lib/gradle/gradle.properties | 20:39:29 |
| 26 Dec 2024 |
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|  Lorenz Leutgeb changed their display name from Lorenz Leutgeb to Lorenz Leutgeb (📞6343). | 19:33:39 |
| Lorenz Leutgeb changed their display name from Lorenz Leutgeb (📞6343) to Lorenz Leutgeb 📞6343. | 19:36:55 |
| 27 Dec 2024 |
 emily | it was pointing to the LTS before anything I did | 13:00:35 |
| emily | (it was on 21 but 22 was packaged) | 13:00:43 |
| emily | so yes I think jdk/openjdk/etc. pointing to the latest LTS is the correct move, I think it also matches what other distros generally do | 13:00:52 |
| emily | FWIW my idea was that we ship openjdk_latest as the rolling latest non-LTS version (and when a new LTS comes out openjdk = openjdk_latest until the next release) | 13:01:31 |
| emily | since pinning a specific version that goes EOL within 6 months is somewhat futile | 13:01:48 |
| emily | Fedora does this (I think they call it "rolling") | 13:01:54 |
 raboof | is there a 'typical' way to install an 'arbitrary' jdk these days? e.g., I'd like a jdk24 build. I used https://codeberg.org/raboof/nix-jabba for a while but I bet there's a better way by now :) | 14:16:49 |
| raboof | nerdsnipe 🤦 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/368598 | 17:58:11 |
| emily | the JDK release cycle doesn't necessarily line up with the Nixpkgs one, right? | 18:05:37 |
| raboof | hmm kinda it seems (e.g. https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/java-se-support-roadmap.html) | 18:07:59 |
| 1 Jan 2025 |
|  NixOS Moderation Botchanged room power levels. | 14:26:16 |
|  linsui joined the room. | 16:10:49 |
| linsui | I thought openjfx build has been fixed in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/365724 but it still fails for jabref. https://hydra.nixos.org/build/282405302/nixlog/6 Is the webkit enabled openjfx not fixed? | 16:15:02 |
| emily | that is plausible. probably needs patches backporting from upstream WebKit | 16:19:12 |
| emily | (I don't feel too good about OpenJFX's ability to keep up with WebKit security fixes 😬) | 16:19:30 |
| emily | https://github.com/openjdk/jfx23u/commit/fa41f904fc9e0034d3af4d7b4b4cc5d7ddde3300 | 16:21:34 |
| emily | there's this which is not in the stable release version | 16:21:39 |
| emily | may fix the build but also I'd be shocked if none of this diff is security-relevant as well 🫠 | 16:21:52 |
| emily | oh, joy… it looks like OpenJFX 21 might be out of security support | 16:25:39 |
| emily | not clear actually | 16:26:19 |
