| 2 Nov 2024 |
 emily | yeah, I will subject everyone on the community builder to the Oracle EULA. they will have all our firstborns | 01:34:41 |
 Tomodachi94 (they/them) | * (or maybe it is, if you can push built derivations up to it) | 01:34:44 |
| emily | it's full shell access and trusted-users | 01:34:53 |
| emily | so theoretically I am root | 01:34:58 |
| emily | which is why I don't use it as a remote builder, just via SSH | 01:35:13 |
| emily | oh my god I need an Oracle account. I should have made you do this :) | 01:35:59 |
| emily | 
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| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Hahaha. I have an account floating around in my password manager actually | 01:37:01 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | No clue if it's still active. I used it to experiment with their free Oracle Cloud stuff a few years ago | 01:37:42 |
| emily | I have an Oracle Cloud account – apparently those are different | 01:38:00 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Oh that's what I have too 🫠 | 01:38:18 |
| emily | 
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| emily | 🤡 | 01:38:59 |
| emily | it's not even unhappy about the TLD – it doesn't want me to say "oracle" | 01:39:14 |
| emily | 
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| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | You want to do Javacard stuff? Hah! Give me everything I'd need to impersonate you sans social security and stuff, and you have a deal | 01:41:04 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Is Oracle even around these days? | 01:41:45 |
| emily | like, what kind of around? | 01:42:31 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Do they still employ people? Do they make anything? | 01:43:09 |
| emily | they're, like, one of the largest companies in the world | 01:43:12 |
| emily | they make licensing fees | 01:43:26 |
| emily | off of gullible enterprises | 01:43:28 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | In reply to@emilazy:matrix.org
they're, like, one of the largest companies in the world Oh sorry I'm tired | 01:43:32 |
| emily | and the worst cloud | 01:43:41 |
| emily | and uhh, MySQL | 01:43:47 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Oh and Solaris apparently!? | 01:44:38 |
| emily | yes, they bought Sun | 01:44:45 |
| emily | commercial Solaris is ~irrelevant now though: all the actual people who made it great are working on Illumos and derivatives now | 01:45:17 |
| emily | (fka OpenSolaris) | 01:45:22 |
| emily | their ZFS has diverged from the OpenZFS everyone uses, etc. | 01:45:35 |
