| 6 May 2026 |
 Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | I kinda wish I enjoyed Lisp so I could give Guix a more thorough look | 16:32:07 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | But lisp just isn't my thing | 16:32:11 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | I respect it greatly, but am not a fan of deep parentheticals lol | 16:32:34 |
 dish [Fox/It/She] | In reply to @msgilligan:matrix.org
I really admire the work people are doing on things like Mes (and Guix in general) and I originally intended to learn Guix, but practicality got the better of me and I decided to focus on Nix. I feel I made the right (for me) decision. i love the bootstrapping stuff and i'm excited for new mes releases that includes aarch64 and riscv64 support(iirc) so we can get rid of binary bootstraps for more platforms(I'm one of the minimal-bootstrap folks in nixpkgs so this is one of my interests in general) | 16:33:17 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | In reply to @infinidoge:inx.moe
But lisp just isn't my thing lisps hurt my brain 🙃 | 16:33:29 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | I'm the type of person who fantasizes about making a more Python-like language to replace Nix, so you can tell where my sensibilities lie | 16:34:22 |
 msgilligan | Hurting your brain means it's good for you! | 16:34:27 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | In reply to @msgilligan:matrix.org
Hurting your brain means it's good for you! are you gonna tell me it builds character? xD | 16:35:58 |
| msgilligan | I've tried several times over the years to get into Lisp and have generally failed. I did enjoy the Little Schemer and will eventually return to Scheme and Guix. | 16:36:05 |
| msgilligan | Exactly! I was channeling my father who always said that. | 16:36:54 |
| msgilligan | It's also what all the MIT grads say about SICP. | 16:37:14 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | These are your fathers parenthesis, tools for a more civilized age... | 16:37:21 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | * These are your father's parenthesis, tools for a more civilized age... | 16:37:31 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | an xkcd 297 reference? nice | 16:38:15 |
| msgilligan | There should be a light-saber emoji. | 16:38:23 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | I don't think unicode would take kindly to including copyrighted characters | 16:38:43 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | You can add custom emotes to your Matrix account though, if you find the right place | 16:39:09 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | and use the right client | 16:39:30 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | Other clients can still use them it just gets a bit jank, I hear | 16:40:14 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | some clients(like element) don't allow you to add them though, afaik | 16:40:44 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | Yeah, adding them requires a specific client or iirc an integration website | 16:41:11 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | The only reasons why I still have Matrix are Nix and my university's LUG, if it weren't for that I could abandon this quality-forsaken ecosystem lol | 16:41:36 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | yeah I'm only here for Nix too | 16:42:22 |
| msgilligan | Matrix builds character! | 16:46:10 |
| msgilligan | BTW, when I was in college I sometimes worked for my dad, programming in COBOL. Very character-building! | 16:47:17 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to @msgilligan:matrix.org
Matrix builds character! No no, Matrix builds bad software
Dealing with bad software for the purposes of being in a community builds character | 16:48:36 |
| msgilligan | Though I prefer bad UX to corporate enshittification. And Signal has bad UX for groups. | 16:50:18 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | I wish I liked Signal | 16:50:50 |
| Infinidoge 🏳️⚧️ | It fails pretty much every metric I need for a chat app | 16:51:04 |
| msgilligan | I think I have a high-tolerance for pain. Also evidenced by the amount of time I've put into working on bitcoinj in (mostly) Java 8. | 16:57:30 |
