| 17 Mar 2025 |
balanced_design | Wait why? Why would packages accross channel boundries interact in a bad way? | 06:39:37 |
K900 | There are, uh, quirks | 06:42:10 |
K900 | Notably around how we handle graphics drivers | 06:42:19 |
K900 | But there can also be others | 06:42:25 |
K900 | The core problem is that you can't really have two copies of the same library loaded into the same process | 06:42:54 |
balanced_design | Is unstable supposed to be combined with something that allows you to select the package version stable would give you? | 06:43:03 |
K900 | So anything that relies on dynamically loaded plugins, or library injections, etc, can get REALLY confused | 06:43:15 |
K900 | Not really, no | 06:43:20 |
K900 | "Unstable" is just a bad name | 06:43:29 |
K900 | It's not unstable as in "has bugs" | 06:43:33 |
K900 | It's unstable as in "has no stable API" | 06:43:43 |
K900 | But even that is kind of an exaggeration | 06:43:51 |
K900 | It's not any more "unstable" than any other rolling release distro | 06:44:00 |
balanced_design | API as in options correct? | 06:44:16 |
K900 | Primarily | 06:45:27 |
K900 | And generally we try really hard to not just break people in confusing ways | 06:45:45 |
K900 | So usually when an option is changed there's a migration period and a warning | 06:45:55 |
K900 | Or an error message telling you what to do | 06:46:00 |
balanced_design | "we". Please dont tell me Im using a maintainers time. | 06:47:02 |
K900 | Two of them, actually | 06:47:27 |
K900 | (both me and @nzbr (they/it) ) | 06:47:46 |
K900 | But you shouldn't worry about it :) | 06:48:19 |
K900 | It's not like I'm doing anything particularly useful right now, at least | 06:49:36 |
balanced_design | I dont know what to say. Im not a person that would consider giving this sort of 1 on 1 help enjoyable.
Im working on meaningful thanks.dev intigration, but in lieu of that, is there something I can be doing to make helping more enjoyable to you two and the people in https://matrix.to/#/!RRerllqmbATpmbJgCn:nixos.org?via=nixos.org&via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de? | 07:16:43 |
balanced_design | Of course I already know to not ask bad questions(aka be detailed, search first, avoid the xy problem) | 07:30:58 |
balanced_design | * Of course I already know to not ask bad questions(aka be detailed, search first, avoid the xy problem(https://xyproblem.info/)) | 07:31:26 |
balanced_design | * I already know to not ask bad questions(aka be detailed, search first, avoid the xy problem(https://xyproblem.info/)) | 07:31:54 |
balanced_design | * I already know to not ask bad questions(aka be detailed, search first, avoid the xy problem(https://xyproblem.info/)) | 07:32:35 |
balanced_design | * From my own research on making 1 on 1 help more efficent I already know a out question quality(aka be detailed, search first, avoid the xy problem(https://xyproblem.info/))
But I dont know why people like you do this... just... freely. | 07:34:36 |
balanced_design | * From my own research on making 1 on 1 help more efficent I already know about question quality(aka be detailed, search first, avoid the xy problem(https://xyproblem.info/))
But I dont know why people like you do this... just... freely. | 07:34:50 |