| 26 Nov 2022 |
 @sielicki:matrix.org | K900: you're doing thankless work -- so let me be one of many, thank you thank you thank you for banging your head against the wall for the benefit o the rest of us. | 17:30:19 |
 K900 | I'm not actually that upset honestly | 17:30:47 |
| @sielicki:matrix.org | i wish I could contribute more, $dayjob just keeps me busy 60 hours a week. | 17:30:48 |
| K900 | It's mostly just that all of this would be a lot easier if upstream actually communicated to distros | 17:31:08 |
| @sielicki:matrix.org | I just think it's corporate lag -- they have hired important kernel developers and notably, poettering. | 17:31:52 |
| @sielicki:matrix.org | takes time for onboarding and planning and execution, but I think they are trying their best to make it painless | 17:32:12 |
| K900 | I'm not sure any of the Linux people they hired are actually working on WSL | 17:32:34 |
| @sielicki:matrix.org | when 95% of your users only know apt, it's hard to justify spending money on someone to communicate with a random snowflake distro | 17:32:35 |
| @sielicki:matrix.org | fair, it's probably azure | 17:32:43 |
| @sielicki:matrix.org | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
But that does not help us here because we need PAM on every process how does ubuntu accomplish this? | 17:35:24 |
| K900 | They don't | 17:35:36 |
| @sielicki:matrix.org | I see. :) | 17:35:52 |
| @sielicki:matrix.org | any low-hanging fruit I can contribute to today? have a few hours | 17:38:39 |
| K900 | Not sure it's a few hours thing but fixing the installer with native systemd could be nice | 17:39:12 |
| K900 | Also I think user sessions might be broken if wslg is disabled | 17:39:36 |
| K900 | But I haven't looked at it closely yet | 17:39:43 |
| K900 | nzbr (they/it) Sandro 🐧: any ideas? | 17:40:01 |
| @sielicki:matrix.org | come to think of it, I have some PRs I want to open against nixpkgs, I packaged zsh-histdb, zsh-histdb-skim, zsh-histdb-fzf and want to get those in. Maybe next weekend I'll take a stab at the installer. | 17:43:14 |
| @sielicki:matrix.org | also think I have autofdo working | 17:43:54 |
|  Yvan Sraka joined the room. | 18:09:46 |
| 27 Nov 2022 |
 Sandro 🐧 | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
It's mostly just that all of this would be a lot easier if upstream actually communicated to distros If we get the hold of some name I could try to write them a nice mail. | 21:56:57 |
| Sandro 🐧 | In reply to @sielicki:matrix.org
when 95% of your users only know apt, it's hard to justify spending money on someone to communicate with a random snowflake distro yes, thats true. If I could convenience my employer that WSL is an actually supported and broadly used dev environment on Windows then maybe something moves but it isn't and most other people use Mac and are scared to update on every major update because $things break. | 21:59:09 |
| Sandro 🐧 | In reply to @sielicki:matrix.org
come to think of it, I have some PRs I want to open against nixpkgs, I packaged zsh-histdb, zsh-histdb-skim, zsh-histdb-fzf and want to get those in. Maybe next weekend I'll take a stab at the installer. Do you have some links? | 21:59:40 |
| Sandro 🐧 | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
nzbr (they/it) Sandro 🐧: any ideas? no, not really. Most things I would like to see are complicated | 22:00:31 |
 Arson Copperflame | In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
If we get the hold of some name I could try to write them a nice mail. The Twitter of the WSL lead dev is in the footer of the native systemd announcement IIRC | 23:40:58 |
| Sandro 🐧 | https://www.craigloewen.com/
and I found a mail. Maybe we can find his MS mail, too. | 23:44:58 |
| Arson Copperflame | 
Download image.png | 23:50:42 |
| Arson Copperflame | Thanks, GIT | 23:50:46 |
| Arson Copperflame | * Thanks, git | 23:51:26 |
| Sandro 🐧 | now only someone needs to write a pleasant mail | 23:55:06 |
