| 17 Oct 2025 |
 matthewcroughan | like, systemd on freebsd | 03:55:57 |
 ElvishJerricco | matthewcroughan: it's not about any real existing cases right this existing second. It's about using semantics that are actually correct | 04:07:39 |
| matthewcroughan | Usually semantics that are actually correct are only driven by things that are right at this second | 04:08:22 |
| ElvishJerricco | .... no | 04:08:29 |
| matthewcroughan | It's not always possible to future proof | 04:08:29 |
| matthewcroughan | Well then why are things so incorrect in general lol? | 04:08:49 |
| matthewcroughan | you can't predict everything | 04:08:52 |
| matthewcroughan | that's why nixpkgs doesn't already compile for musl | 04:08:58 |
| ElvishJerricco | dude I'm not arguing this | 04:09:00 |
| ElvishJerricco | this is fucking ridiculous | 04:09:03 |
| ElvishJerricco | like no, it doesn't really matter | 04:09:44 |
| ElvishJerricco | I explained the reasoning for a simple change and you said "I don't care though" | 04:09:56 |
| matthewcroughan | I'm just asking why it matters, and there is no such thing as "correctness" as imo, it's always informed by the moment we're in | 04:10:04 |
| matthewcroughan | I'm not saying I don't agree with the change, just trying to understand | 04:10:11 |
| matthewcroughan | Wat, I didn't say I don't care? | 04:11:15 |
| ElvishJerricco | that's the implication when you're saying the difference doesn't matter | 04:11:36 |
| matthewcroughan | I didn't say it didn't matter | 04:11:56 |
| matthewcroughan | I just asked why it matters, is that the same thing O.o | 04:12:07 |
| ElvishJerricco | all I'm trying to tell you is that no, there is no specific circumstance where this difference matters. What I told you at the start was that you should still use the correct semantics anyway. | 04:14:11 |
| matthewcroughan | You know, when I ask further, it's not because I disagree, it's because I want to fully figure out what someone else's thinking is | 04:14:27 |
| ElvishJerricco | I would hope that using the correct semantics is self-justifying | 04:14:29 |
| matthewcroughan | Because I don't know anything | 04:14:56 |
| matthewcroughan | I especially don't know what "correct semantics" are, or what "correctness" is | 04:15:26 |
| matthewcroughan | I'm skeptical of correctness though | 04:15:31 |
| ElvishJerricco | I made that very clear | 04:15:36 |
| ElvishJerricco | in this case, the only thing that matters is that the libc is glibc | 04:15:44 |
| ElvishJerricco | not gnu, not musl, not anything else | 04:15:55 |
| ElvishJerricco | at this point I've explained myself five times | 04:16:10 |
| ElvishJerricco | so I'm done | 04:16:13 |
| matthewcroughan | For me, in my mind, isMusl and libc == musl evaluates to true | 04:16:59 |
