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25 Oct 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyeah that. would explain it.01:11:47
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughanWhat is Canadian cross, and where can I learn more about the origins of this terM/14:22:39
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan* What is Canadian cross, and where can I learn more about the origins of this term?14:22:40
@opna2608:matrix.orgPunadifferent platforms for build, host & target. i.e. cross-compiling (x86_64-linux -> aarch64-linux) a cross-compiler (aarch64-linux -> riscv64-none)14:26:43
@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforever

https://crosstool-ng.github.io/docs/toolchain-types/

The term Canadian Cross was coined because at the time that these issues were all being hashed out, Canada had three national political parties (per Wikipedia).

14:27:28
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's the stupidest term in the universe14:38:31
@alexfmpe:matrix.orgalexfmpewhat's this "ng" I keep seeing everywhere? 14:39:34
@alexfmpe:matrix.orgalexfmpessh-ng, gcc-ng, crosstool-ng14:39:42
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinNew gen14:39:50
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin* next gen14:40:06
@alexfmpe:matrix.orgalexfmpeI feel somehow disappointed14:40:09
@alexfmpe:matrix.orgalexfmpe

The term Canadian Cross was coined because at the time that these issues were all being hashed out, Canada had three national political parties

lolwut

14:43:08
@alexfmpe:matrix.orgalexfmpe* lolwut14:43:29
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily it's a bit awkward that makeScopeWithSplicing' passes self rather than spliced to the function 15:38:46
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily like the pkgs/__splicedPackages thing 15:38:52
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily is the idea to just always use callPackage for every single definition? but that's awkward in its own way, because of the effects on .override of course 15:39:09
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily can we just… make it pass spliced? I'm not seeing how that would cause problems 15:39:49
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27 Oct 2025
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28 Oct 2025
@llamato:matrix.orgLlamatoHi guys. I am working on getting a nix os desktop enviroment running on the Banana Pi M1. (armv7l). So far I managed to get the labwc wayland compositor running but am now struggling to get any browser to compile. Looks like onnxruntime keeps firefox from compiling. Shitboken6 keeps falkon from compiling and libparserutils keeps netsurf from compiling saying it can not find the CC command oddly enough. Any ideas on what I can do here?07:12:19
@symphorien:xlumurb.eusymphorienfwiw last version of upstream Firefox dropped support for 32 bit07:14:27
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)You could maybe try servo... Things not finding cc does happen occasionally, should be fixable07:18:25
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)Qt cross for falkon, well good luck07:18:41
@anders:sorby.xyzAnders

Reposting here:
I am working on readding support for relibc and redoxos to nixpkgs. That requires adding support for the relibc library which is a replacement for libc compatible with redox.
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/453786

But I run into an infinite recusion problem when I try nix-shell -A pkgsCross.x86_64-unknown-redox.mkShell.


       … while evaluating the attribute 'stdenv.cc.targetPrefix'
         at /home/anderscs/src/nixpkgs/pkgs/stdenv/generic/default.nix:209:15:
          208|
          209|       inherit cc hasCC;
             |               ^
          210|

       … while evaluating 'targetPackages.stdenv.cc' to select 'targetPrefix' on it
         at /home/anderscs/src/nixpkgs/pkgs/development/compilers/rust/rustc.nix:55:14:
           54| stdenv.mkDerivation (finalAttrs: {
           55|   pname = "${targetPackages.stdenv.cc.targetPrefix}rustc";
             |              ^
           56|   inherit version;

       error: infinite recursion encountered
       at /home/anderscs/src/nixpkgs/pkgs/development/compilers/rust/rustc.nix:55:14:
           54| stdenv.mkDerivation (finalAttrs: {
           55|   pname = "${targetPackages.stdenv.cc.targetPrefix}rustc";
             |              ^

It is a circular dependency which should be solvable.

How do I best solve this?

07:39:44
@llamato:matrix.orgLlamato Thank you for the quick response.

Regarding CC not being found. How could that be fixed?

Regarding Servo. I tried it but that seems to have issues with the rust bindings. Saying it can not find bindgen.
08:05:11
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)

How could that be fixed?

either patching the makefiles to find the correct CC, or exporting some environment variable shenanigans.
I suspect this may be an issue too: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/6a08e6bb4e46ff7fcbb53d409b253f6bad8a28ce/pkgs/by-name/li/libparserutils/package.nix#L21
Build system should probably be in native inputs.

08:25:34
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)but this is messy, i didn't see netsurf used a dedicated package for build system abstraction, makes this super ugly08:26:10
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all) *

How could that be fixed?

either patching the makefiles to find the correct CC, or exporting some environment variable shenanigans.
I suspect this may be an issue too: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/6a08e6bb4e46ff7fcbb53d409b253f6bad8a28ce/pkgs/by-name/li/libparserutils/package.nix#L21
Build system should probably be in native inputs, not sure.

08:26:32
@llamato:matrix.orgLlamatoOk so good news. After spending way to much time on this I got dillo to compile and x11 to run. The issue is my mouse does not work in x11 and ideally I would like to use the labwc compositor under wayland, that I also got to run. The mouse works there so that is good. However the one thing I could not get running in the chain is xwayland.15:37:12
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)
In reply to @llamato:matrix.org
Ok so good news. After spending way to much time on this I got dillo to compile and x11 to run. The issue is my mouse does not work in x11 and ideally I would like to use the labwc compositor under wayland, that I also got to run. The mouse works there so that is good. However the one thing I could not get running in the chain is xwayland.
Does xwayland not run or not build?
17:34:57

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