| 18 Mar 2025 |
 6pak | mono had it's own msbuild clone called xbuild, before msbuild was open sourced | 19:51:57 |
 lzcunt | yea I'm aware, the application I'm trying to manage depends on standalone msbuild | 19:52:21 |
| lzcunt | but is a mono project | 19:52:37 |
| lzcunt | * and is a mono project | 19:52:49 |
| 6pak | afaik mono also had a fork of the open sourced msbuild for a bit | 19:52:56 |
| 6pak | which is what nixpkgs packages as "msbuild" | 19:53:20 |
| lzcunt | oof dotnet-sdks msbuild doesn't work (it wants .NETFramework,Version=v4.6.1) | 19:53:46 |
| lzcunt | * oof dotnet-sdks msbuild doesn't work (it wants .NETFramework,Version=v4.6.1 but is 8.0) | 19:53:51 |
| lzcunt | so xbuild doesn't work, msbuild is marked insecure, sdk's msbuild is not for mono projects seemingly) | 19:54:58 |
| lzcunt | * so xbuild doesn't work, msbuild is marked insecure, sdk's msbuild is not for mono projects seemingly | 19:55:00 |
| 6pak | you might make it work by explicitly referencing Microsoft.NETFramework.ReferenceAssemblies? | 19:55:14 |
| lzcunt | how would I do that? | 19:55:29 |
| 6pak | by however you install packages on packages.config projects | 19:59:51 |
| 6pak | wait so packages.config should work after all? | 20:00:34 |
| 6pak | https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/nuget/reference/msbuild-targets#restoring-packagereference-and-packagesconfig-projects-with-msbuild | 20:00:45 |
| lzcunt | this is nuget restore | 20:09:44 |
| lzcunt | wait no | 20:09:54 |
| 6pak | no, it seems to be modern msbuild/nuget | 20:10:11 |
| lzcunt | yea I tried this and it didn't support packages.config | 20:10:42 |
| lzcunt | it could be an older version than 16.5 possibly | 20:11:07 |
| lzcunt | and I got nuget restore working anyway | 20:11:37 |
| 6pak | with the RestorePackagesConfig flag? | 20:11:44 |
| lzcunt | no... | 20:11:53 |
| lzcunt | Nothing to do. None of the projects specified contain packages to restore. | 20:13:09 |
| lzcunt | yea seemingly this project depends on msbuild from mono-complete which we might not have (or it might be the msbuild package that needs SDK 6 which is EOL so that package also doesn't work) | 20:33:34 |
 GGG | Doesn't `dotnet msbuild` work? That mightwork with legacy projects | 20:52:16 |
| 19 Mar 2025 |
|  K900 joined the room. | 08:30:48 |
| K900 | Hey folks, is the dotnet bootstrap supposed to take over an hour on a 16-core? | 08:31:22 |
| K900 | Or am I holding it wrong somehow? | 08:31:27 |
 Corngood | It's quite slow, but that seems like a lot. Is it idle? | 11:58:35 |
