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hab25 | Per my observation 1 year ago, the overwhelming majority of packages didn't get fixes backported into the nixpkgs-${currentReleaseNumber} branch. So my guess was that preferring nixpkgs-unstable for non-"system-level" packages (e.g., not systemd or gnome) counter-intuitively resulted in a more stable user experience.
I'm wondering if this still the case, so let's say I'm stating this conclusion but with regards to the present; any agreers/disagreers? Rationale very welcome.
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Alyssa Ross | I think you are correct and "unstable" should be renamed to "rolling". | 16:38:08 |
hab25 | Thank you, that makes sense | 16:52:01 |
hab25 | I'm getting the sense that the stable large channel should not exist, and the stable small channel should contain only these "system-level" packages | 16:52:53 |
hab25 | And that this recommendation https://wiki.nixos.org/wiki/Channel_branches#When_unstable_lags_behind_master:~:text=For%20most%20users%2C%20a%20stable/large%20channel%20is%20recommended. should be changed | 16:53:05 |
hab25 | Not only would this help users by eliminating the possibility of them making a bad choice, it would likely also lower maintenance efforts by getting rid of a branch (a large one, at that) | 16:54:06 |
K900 | The "small" channels aren't a separate small subset of nixpkgs | 16:54:28 |
K900 | And no, we can't drop the stable branches | 16:54:43 |
K900 | People are relying on those | 16:54:48 |
hab25 | the wiki I just linked says "a defined set of commonly-used packages" | 16:55:16 |
K900 | And no, you can't generally mix random channels together and expect things to work, never mind be "more stable" than either channel by itself | 16:55:29 |
K900 | The wiki is full of shit, as it often is | 16:55:36 |
Grimmauld (any/all) | well, yes, but the derivations are exactly the same as in big channels, they aren't built twice like stable/unstable are built seperately | 16:55:55 |