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5 Mar 2024
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgi have been working on gerrit recently on a private project and it has been nice17:52:05
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)I've used Phabricator for the last decade and TBH I love it. https://we.phorge.it/ is the successor.17:52:36
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8 Mar 2024
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil@room The architecture team is being dissolved, please check out https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixpkgs-architecture-team-conclusion-and-prospective/41020 for all the details!16:55:26
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)

at some point somebody should just be empowered to make decisions.
♥️

16:56:13
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8) *

at some point somebody should just be empowered to make decisions.
♥️ to this

16:56:30
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)

I'm a little sad that this action is being taken:

Publicly archive the private Nixpkgs Architecture Matrix channel

... as having "direct line" to those interested in architecture and structure rather than the things being built with the structure is quite nice.

16:57:45
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbpI agree that keeping this channel might still be valuable.16:58:10
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa RossThis room is being kept16:58:15
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Rossthe "private Nixpkgs Architecture Matrix channel" is not this room16:58:24
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)
In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
the "private Nixpkgs Architecture Matrix channel" is not this room
👀 I see
16:58:44
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa RossThis is "The public Nixpkgs Architecture Matrix room for ephemeral discussions", listed under "The following will continue to exist:"16:58:49
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbpwhy was there a private channel then?16:59:11
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgIs that question still relevant now?17:04:25
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8) *

I'm a little sad that this action is being taken:

Publicly archive the private Nixpkgs Architecture Matrix channel

... as having "direct line" to those interested in architecture and structure rather than the things being built with the structure is quite nice.

Sadness over: this room stays.

17:08:35
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8) *

I'm a little sad that this action is being taken:

Publicly archive the private Nixpkgs Architecture Matrix channel

... as having "direct line" to those interested in architecture and structure rather than the things being built with the structure is quite nice.

Sadness over: this room stays.

17:08:51
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbpI curious to understand what justified taking discussion in private instead of using this channel?17:14:43
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbp * I am curious to understand what justified taking discussion in private instead of using this channel?17:14:51
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8) *

at some point somebody should just be empowered to make decisions.

♥️ to this

17:17:42
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.org

Is that question still relevant now?

I think creating walls and barriers to contributions is always a relevant question in a FOSS community

17:26:39
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilIt's main purpose was to discuss member applications and whether to approve them17:27:41
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Btw I documented the existence of such a private room here 17:32:23
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.orgI think I just have a philosophical opposition to making decisions "behind closed doors". Sure not everything has to be public record, but there should be some transparency. 17:39:08
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAgreed. I'd never want to make decisions in such a private room, and indeed we never did17:44:10
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil(well the NAT can't really make a decision anyways since it has no authority anyways, would be more important if that wasn't the case)17:44:37
@jonringer:matrix.org@jonringer:matrix.orgThe Nix Community is nothing without contributors, and contributors want to feel like they have some agency in how they can participate. Maybe I'm just still upset over srid getting banned over opposing the prescribed moderation decisions. Meanwhile other members of the community can hop into matrix channels, tell 3+ people to F-off, and not receive a slap on the wrist.17:44:48
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
Agreed. I'd never want to make decisions in such a private room, and indeed we never did
Oh well I guess that private room was used to decide over new members
17:46:58
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil

Anyways I'll soon share the logs of that room, it's really not very exciting. In summary it's:

  • Getting everybody to approve two new members
  • Me using the @ room in that channel to easily ping all members and ask for a new meeting time after the member were accepted
  • Me lamenting about the team not working and drafting the announcement to dissolve it
17:48:09

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