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27 Sep 2023
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilBut it's great to have more feedback from people about relying on those categories for the other RFC, as you can see it discusses whethere a categorisation is worth having even :)09:46:57
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I'm still a little unsure, what's the real problem with all-packages? It's big, but it seems to not be a problem for the most part?09:48:07
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgI personally just don't want to care about which categories my packages belong into. If we delegate this to a team or something then I'm fine with it09:48:16
@k900:0upti.meK900It's also hard to keep organized09:48:18
@k900:0upti.meK900And categories are hard to choose "correctly"09:48:28
@k900:0upti.meK900So they're all over the place09:48:32
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org
In reply to @poweruser64:matrix.org
I'm still a little unsure, what's the real problem with all-packages? It's big, but it seems to not be a problem for the most part?
Infinisil had an entire talk about this on NixCon, recommend that
09:48:38
@k900:0upti.meK900Also Github chokes on all-packages.nix changes half the time09:48:40
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgTL;DR: it *is* that bad09:48:56
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Talk here 09:49:58
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64The talk was very good! It's actually what made me aware of all this09:51:06
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I'm definitely going to miss having all the audio packages in the same folder when this is implemented09:52:47
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilWant to help with the categorisation rfc to have a replacement? :D09:53:32
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I'd love to!09:53:54
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I have no idea how to help or what help is needed09:54:03
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilReally just review and participate in the discussion, it's all happening in the rfc comments for now09:54:47
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64cool09:55:06
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I'll go read what they're all saying09:55:24
@k900:0upti.meK900"All the audio packages"09:55:41
* @k900:0upti.meK900 remembers Pipewire is still in development/libraries09:55:47
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64Okayyy it's not perfect, but it doesn't need to be perfect to do its job well09:56:19
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64 it doesn't really matter where the packages are at the end of the day as long as there aren't two folders with the same name in the same directory 09:57:22
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64Maybe there's another reason to the organization that I'm missing09:58:57
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
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it doesn't really matter where the packages are at the end of the day as long as there aren't two folders with the same name in the same directory
Not sure I get that. That can never happen, because of file systems!
10:03:43
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilWell, at least all the filesystems I know use a key-value representation of directories, you can't have the same key twice10:04:38
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I mean the computer doesn't really care where the file is10:06:10
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64and organizing things by a way that classifies them beyond "this one's name starts with NE" seems like it's more useful to people who use the repo10:07:55
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64 * and organizing things by a way that classifies them beyond "this one's name starts with NE" seems like it's more useful to humans10:08:19
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64 * and organizing things in a way that classifies them beyond "this one's name starts with NE" seems like it's more useful to humans10:08:45
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilWell, RFC 140 is accepted now, we can't change that10:10:27

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