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27 Sep 2023
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64it's also nice when developing a package to be able to see examples of how similar software was packaged right in the same place09:34:00
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64Ah good to know09:34:08
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64What number is it?09:34:19
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64 * After RFC 140 is in full effect, will packages still have categories of some sort? It seems like it would be a waste to get rid of all the work that has been done to classify 80000+ packages. Personally, I learn about a lot of software just by looking at what other packages are in the categories I use the most.09:35:51
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org156 I think?09:36:31
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64hmm that one is "No Direct Nixpkgs Pushes"09:37:42
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64do you know what it might be called?09:39:13
@rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nlRick (Mindavi)meta.tags or categories or something 09:39:46
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I searched for categories and tags but got nothing 😕09:40:40
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64ah! 14609:43:03
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/14609:43:04
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64somehow searching for categories didn't find this?09:43:20
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @poweruser64:matrix.org
After RFC 140 is in full effect, will packages still have categories of some sort? It seems like it would be a waste to get rid of all the work that has been done to classify 80000+ packages. Personally, I learn about a lot of software just by looking at what other packages are in the categories I use the most.
We can always get that back from the commit history, though new packages won't have that anymore yeah
09:44:43
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilThe benefit of those categories is imo less significant that the benefit of improving the all-packages situation09:45:59
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilBut it's great to have more feedback from people about relying on those categories for the other RFC, as you can see it discusses whethere a categorisation is worth having even :)09:46:57
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I'm still a little unsure, what's the real problem with all-packages? It's big, but it seems to not be a problem for the most part?09:48:07
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgI personally just don't want to care about which categories my packages belong into. If we delegate this to a team or something then I'm fine with it09:48:16
@k900:0upti.meK900It's also hard to keep organized09:48:18
@k900:0upti.meK900And categories are hard to choose "correctly"09:48:28
@k900:0upti.meK900So they're all over the place09:48:32
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org
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I'm still a little unsure, what's the real problem with all-packages? It's big, but it seems to not be a problem for the most part?
Infinisil had an entire talk about this on NixCon, recommend that
09:48:38
@k900:0upti.meK900Also Github chokes on all-packages.nix changes half the time09:48:40
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgTL;DR: it *is* that bad09:48:56
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Talk here 09:49:58
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64The talk was very good! It's actually what made me aware of all this09:51:06
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I'm definitely going to miss having all the audio packages in the same folder when this is implemented09:52:47
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilWant to help with the categorisation rfc to have a replacement? :D09:53:32
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I'd love to!09:53:54
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I have no idea how to help or what help is needed09:54:03
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilReally just review and participate in the discussion, it's all happening in the rfc comments for now09:54:47

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