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22 Sep 2023
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Currently the RFC specifies that an arbitrary argument is allowed here, but there's no good reason to allow { } arguments. 19:54:51
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil The main reason I want to change this is because I want to have a check to make sure new packages don't add themselves to all-packages.nix unless necessary (which is when it's not { }). 19:56:08
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilBut it also ensures that for packages that don't need arguments anymore, the definition also gets removed from all-packages.nix19:57:48
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilThis should be fairly non-controversial, so I'll go ahead with a Nixpkgs PR for this, indicating the slight deviation from the RFC19:59:18
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org👍20:42:44
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Oof, nixpkgs-check-by-name had a non-reproducible test failure, but here's a PR that fixes it: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/256774, it's a short one but review/merge appreciated 22:16:08
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23 Sep 2023
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil I wrote down a strategy for how pkgs/by-name checks could be made more strict over time without randomly breaking stuff: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/256788 00:14:02
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilWell it's generic to any CI check really00:14:46
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
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This should be fairly non-controversial, so I'll go ahead with a Nixpkgs PR for this, indicating the slight deviation from the RFC
Only a draft for now: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/256792
00:43:49
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Btw here's the RFC 140 milestone aggregating all of these issues/PRs 00:52:52
24 Sep 2023
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@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64After RFC 140 is being used, will packages still have categories of some sort? It seems like it would be a waste to get rid of all the work that has been done to classify 80000+ packages. Personally, I learn about a lot of software just by looking at what other packages are in the categories I use the most.09:33:14
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgThere's a separate RFC for that09:33:55
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64it's also nice when developing a package to be able to see examples of how similar software was packaged right in the same place09:34:00
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64Ah good to know09:34:08
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64What number is it?09:34:19
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64 * After RFC 140 is in full effect, will packages still have categories of some sort? It seems like it would be a waste to get rid of all the work that has been done to classify 80000+ packages. Personally, I learn about a lot of software just by looking at what other packages are in the categories I use the most.09:35:51
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org156 I think?09:36:31
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64hmm that one is "No Direct Nixpkgs Pushes"09:37:42
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64do you know what it might be called?09:39:13
@rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nlRick (Mindavi)meta.tags or categories or something 09:39:46
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64I searched for categories and tags but got nothing 😕09:40:40
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64ah! 14609:43:03
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/14609:43:04
@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64somehow searching for categories didn't find this?09:43:20
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @poweruser64:matrix.org
After RFC 140 is in full effect, will packages still have categories of some sort? It seems like it would be a waste to get rid of all the work that has been done to classify 80000+ packages. Personally, I learn about a lot of software just by looking at what other packages are in the categories I use the most.
We can always get that back from the commit history, though new packages won't have that anymore yeah
09:44:43
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilThe benefit of those categories is imo less significant that the benefit of improving the all-packages situation09:45:59

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