| 9 Jun 2023 |
 infinisil | I guess it's solving the problem of naming though, because then you don't even have a name anymore lol | 18:34:28 |
 K900 | That's the idea, yeah | 18:36:38 |
| K900 | It's sorted first | 18:36:41 |
| K900 | And it's explicitly not a name | 18:36:43 |
| K900 | And it hopefully looks temporary | 18:36:50 |
 hexa | there were arguments against a temporary name, like that moving things around breaks lots of assumptions about backports and out-of-tree usage | 18:37:29 |
| infinisil | Hmm I don't think it should be intended to be temporary. Yes we hope to migrate to something else at some point, but this might also never happen or we completely change the direction. And this is in the scale of perhaps years | 18:38:34 |
| infinisil | Redacted or Malformed Event | 18:50:36 |
 Robert Hensing (roberth) | I don't think we've considered pkgs/by-name yet? | 19:14:03 |
| infinisil | Robert Hensing (roberth): I just thought of pkgs/by-prefix a couple minutes ago :o | 19:14:40 |
| infinisil | Should definitely consider, reminds me of /dev/disk/by-* | 19:15:09 |
| Robert Hensing (roberth) | yeah, I don't think we'll have many views into the same "structure" like dev has, but I don't think that's an objection | 19:16:08 |
| infinisil | I guess it's also focusing on the structure of it, not the contents, which I don't think is great | 19:16:22 |
| Robert Hensing (roberth) | that's kind of the point though, because we can't agree on what the contents should be | 19:16:52 |
| Robert Hensing (roberth) | and we've already acknowledged that we may want to use it for more than packages | 19:17:09 |
| Robert Hensing (roberth) | and pkgs/by-name does suggest "packages", so that's actually covered | 19:17:35 |
| Robert Hensing (roberth) | like unit it lends itself to a transposition like by-name/<shard+name>/package. It's really quite similar | 19:18:54 |
| infinisil | True that's not bad. I'm not sure if we'd want to keep such a name in a future with more than just packages in these directories though. But that's not a strong argument | 19:21:23 |
| Robert Hensing (roberth) | not by-attr because we allow usage that doesn't strictly follow that; all-packages.nix may reuse the path-based name for attributes that have a different name, such as mypkg_unstable and whatnot | 19:22:21 |
| infinisil | Hmm, that's not great though, by-name has the same problem | 19:23:26 |
| Robert Hensing (roberth) | pkgs/software; just a catch-all category. Even plain data is software according to some definitions | 19:23:39 |
| K900 | Also, if I may throw in a nit, it would actually be nice to have it as _by-name or similar | 19:23:48 |
| Robert Hensing (roberth) | I think we can add that to the list of considered but rejected quite easily (software) | 19:24:00 |
| K900 | So it's sorted first | 19:24:00 |
| K900 | Also, I don't think mypkg-unstable breaks by-prefix? | 19:24:16 |
| K900 | It is the same prefix after all | 19:24:21 |
| K900 | Now unstable-mypkg would | 19:24:35 |
| K900 | But that's a different story | 19:24:39 |
| infinisil | If we have a single directory containing all the shards then I don't think it needs to be sorted at the beginning. Or at least I wouldn't want to add a _ just for that | 19:24:51 |
| Robert Hensing (roberth) | Right, I think in a few cases we might have soft forks with different names though | 19:24:59 |
