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20 Jul 2022
@yorik.sar:matrix.orgyorik.sarBy the way, do nixpkgs support netbsd/vax in current state?16:17:38
@yorik.sar:matrix.orgyorik.sarWe should define what we want to support, otherwise we'll have to rely on Bash or something as ubiquitous...16:18:13
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.orgGytis Ivaskevicius

something similar may work nicely https://github.com/elsaland/elsa but not well maintained (also gcc can compile go 👁️)

Advantages of typescript:

  • Actualy very nice and solid type system
  • One of the most popular languages
  • Language is flexibible enough to create nice DSL's like https://github.com/google/zx
  • Large focus on async
  • Inline json
16:18:28
@yorik.sar:matrix.orgyorik.sar

NetBSD/vax is the port of NetBSD to DEC VAX computers. The first model was announced in 1977 and they were sold until September 30, 2000.
http://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/vax/

Oh, it's one of those...

16:18:53
@yorik.sar:matrix.orgyorik.sar *

NetBSD/vax is the port of NetBSD to DEC VAX computers. The first model was announced in 1977 and they were sold until September 30, 2000.

http://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/vax/

Oh, it's one of those...

16:19:09
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.orgGytis Ivaskevicius
In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
ruby and lua are good options and will work on that platform (and if you can run on netbsd/vax you can run on anything, pretty much)
i bet it cant run on redox 😔
16:19:15
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.orgGytis Ivaskevicius;D16:19:17
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsi don't think defining specific platform support should be in scope for this. we should aim to run on as many platforms as possible, so as to not preclude future platform support.16:20:04
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.orgGytis Ivaskevicius infinisil: might be cool to consult with John Ericson, I am sure he has some unique insights 16:21:33
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.orgGytis IvaskeviciusMaybe you could get him to join next call?16:21:44
@kity:kity.wtfproblems https://github.com/SwadicalRag/wasm2lua 16:24:48
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsa bit silly but could be considered for portability if we end up on wasm16:25:16
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson joined the room.16:44:56
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@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.orgGytis IvaskeviciusWelp, good news everyone!! I had a chat with John and he will join us on the next call and if we are lucky may become an advisor/mentor of sorts for this particular issue 16:51:43
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.orgGytis Ivaskevicius * Welp, good news everyone!! I had a chat with John and he will join us on the next call and if we are lucky may become an advisor/mentor for this particular issue 16:51:59
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Awesome! Glad to have you John Ericson ! 16:56:39
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonglad to be here!16:56:56
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilMeanwhile I uploaded the meeting notes to https://github.com/nixpkgs-architecture/meetings/blob/master/2022-07-20.md, which also contains the link to the recording16:56:56
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonlots to talk about, but a shorter term task I hope to get people to help me with is repackaging compiler with upstream yak shaves16:57:33
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonit's hard, but it untangles lots of things which in turn allows other architectural efforts to procede16:57:55
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilIt's a bit tricky because everybody probably has their own priority of issues, but if it's a dependency for other issues then it might be very worthwhile16:59:20
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilGotta work from the bottom up, can't have a loose foundation16:59:37
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil John Ericson: Do you think making stdenv a bit more independent of nixpkgs would be a good idea? This could include things like it having its own repository, its own release cycle, it having its own nixpkgs-independent basic builders, etc. 17:02:41
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilOwn Hydra jobset17:02:56
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson infinisil: I worry more repos will make cross-cutting refactors harder 17:03:26
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn EricsonI hope we can get types before such experiments17:03:38
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsontypes would offset that downside a lot17:03:44
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil If not a separate repo, it could also live independently in a subtree, a bit like nixpkgs lib 17:04:12
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI'm imagining a stricter dependency chain of pkgs depending on stdenv, but not the other way around17:04:49

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