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16 May 2023
@growpotkin:matrix.orgGrowpotkinevery engineer's dream13:27:59
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Robert Hensing (roberth): Thanks <3 13:28:27
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth)a rewrite with blackjack13:28:28
@growpotkin:matrix.orgGrowpotkinIt's a bit like "man if I could go back to high school today I'd do so much different"; but like, for programming. It's delightful 😁13:29:24
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil @room: The next meeting will take place in ~10 minutes - meeting link - live stream - meeting notes 14:21:44
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Robert Hensing (roberth): tomberek: Ping 14:34:45
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17 May 2023
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@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth) looks like the Simple Package Paths shepherds got approved: https://github.com/NixOS/rfc-steering-committee/issues/113 15:04:16
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org infinisil could you please update the RFC text to clarify that it is about nixpkgs? I agree that it kind of starts in the middle of the action where some context is implied. 22:06:07
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgIf you can also make the definition of "unit" more clear that would be great, but honestly I think it is good enough as-is22:06:29
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil piegames: Hmm, Nixpkgs is mentioned fairly early in the Detailed Design section 22:14:42
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
piegames: Hmm, Nixpkgs is mentioned fairly early in the Detailed Design section
Yeah that's good, I'm mostly concerned about the summary
22:15:22
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAh fair22:15:55
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil piegames: Done, also pushed some updates about the recently discussed things 22:49:04
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil * piegames: Done, also pushed some updates about the pkgs/unit thing 22:49:16
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilWell, let me know if you think the summary should still be improved, I only added some Nixpkgs mentions, didn't change it very much22:50:57
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgNo, I'm happy now23:06:31
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgUnless we want to discuss alternative names to "unit" some more first (no strong opinions on my side either way), I'd suggest that the other Shepherds review the current text and then give their go in direction of FCP?23:08:19
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org
In reply to @roberthensing:matrix.org
looks like the Simple Package Paths shepherds got approved: https://github.com/NixOS/rfc-steering-committee/issues/113
Btw, who is actually shepherd leader? I don't think the meeting notes mention that
23:09:17
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @piegames:matrix.org
Unless we want to discuss alternative names to "unit" some more first (no strong opinions on my side either way), I'd suggest that the other Shepherds review the current text and then give their go in direction of FCP?
I'd say let's wait until the middle of next week to give Robert Hensing (roberth) (co-author) and niksnut more time to reply and argue. If some new good arguments are brought up until then we might have to think some more.
If not, I think I'll just make a comment to ask all shepherds to upvote that comment if they agree to do FCP
23:11:36
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @piegames:matrix.org
Btw, who is actually shepherd leader? I don't think the meeting notes mention that
Yeah I feel like that was missed.. In any case it doesn't really matter for the RFC, I'll just leave the shepherd lead field blank
23:12:17
@emilytrau:matrix.org@emilytrau:matrix.org

Heya y'all! I caught up on the minutes from the last meeting. Excited to see what kind of experiments we can play with in minimal-bootstrap!

Keen to try out derivationStrict but I ran into this eval error when swapping it in to derivationWithMeta:

error: attribute 'outPath' missing

       at /home/emilytrau/Documents/code/nixpkgs/lib/customisation.nix:229:35:

          228|       drvPath = assert condition; drv.drvPath;
          229|       outPath = assert condition; drv.outPath;
             |                                   ^
          230|     };
(use '--show-trace' to show detailed location information)

May be related to https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/7569 ?

23:44:17
22 May 2023
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org phaer j-k growpotkin ( Alex Ameen ) I'd like to ask you to review the current version of the RFC text in the next days, and give your go towards announcing FCP if no new issues come up 12:22:21
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
I'd say let's wait until the middle of next week to give Robert Hensing (roberth) (co-author) and niksnut more time to reply and argue. If some new good arguments are brought up until then we might have to think some more.
If not, I think I'll just make a comment to ask all shepherds to upvote that comment if they agree to do FCP
We can do that, although I don't think all discussion points need to be resolved for announcing FCP. It exists to enable discussion, after all.
12:24:44
@phaer:matrix.orgphaer
In reply to @piegames:matrix.org
phaer j-k growpotkin ( Alex Ameen ) I'd like to ask you to review the current version of the RFC text in the next days, and give your go towards announcing FCP if no new issues come up
Thanks, on vacation till Thursday, going to check the RFC text then
12:27:13
23 May 2023
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