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18 Apr 2023
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth)discussions about changes to negated exceptions are too complicated for me16:04:23
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgDoes anybody have the rights to mark some of the old discussions as "resolved"?16:09:28
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org infinisil: I must agree with Roberth here that since the last change you are sending mixed signals on the currently discussed point, and I'm unsure as to what's your current position on this. 16:11:05
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgI think that we all actually agree and there is just a communication issue, but I'm unsure16:11:36
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @roberthensing:matrix.org
infinisil did I miss a negation somewhere? Maybe clarify that callPackage foo { } is only a default that can be overridden in all-packages.nix?
No there's no missing negation. I'm proposing a change to the RFC, I pushed those change to the branch, and am highlighting what changed with the review comments. Previously we had an exception that allowed all-packages.nix to do callPackage foo { /* non-empty */ }, but I'm proposing to remove that exception
16:43:35
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @piegames:matrix.org
Does anybody have the rights to mark some of the old discussions as "resolved"?
16:44:02
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
No there's no missing negation. I'm proposing a change to the RFC, I pushed those change to the branch, and am highlighting what changed with the review comments. Previously we had an exception that allowed all-packages.nix to do callPackage foo { /* non-empty */ }, but I'm proposing to remove that exception
How does this qualify as "exception"? Exception to what rule? I think potentially having arguments in a callPackage call is standard?
17:39:26
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil piegames: It's an exception that allows arguments to package functions to not be pkgs.${name} 18:42:34
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil And I think that would be a really nice property, for users to just know that from { hello }: that hello points to pkgs.hello and not something else 18:43:19
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil But I concur that custom arguments are something we need right now, there's no good alternative to it yet 18:43:35
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI'll re-add this to the RFC again, I think it's good we discussed this again :)18:44:57
20 Apr 2023
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21 Apr 2023
@hariamoor:matrix.orgHariRedacted or Malformed Event01:57:12
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@hariamoor:matrix.orgHariYou could also use Dan Firth's Horizon to do it, but really it should support both imo02:48:36
@whentze:matrix.orgWanja Hentze might want to ask in #dream2nix:nixos.org instead 02:50:25
@hariamoor:matrix.orgHari
In reply to @whentze:matrix.org
might want to ask in #dream2nix:nixos.org instead
reposting
04:11:11
22 Apr 2023
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26 Apr 2023
@noob_tea:matrix.orgtea

I think this is maybe in the scope for this team?
Where should I store things that are

  • generated
  • not needed at eval time
  • but nixpkgs-tooling specific
  • too large (like 2mb) to include in nixpkgs
15:40:10
@whentze:matrix.orgWanja HentzeI don't have an answer but maybe look at https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/10915:44:40
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Rossnoob_tea: can you explain again to me what this file is?16:30:31
@noob_tea:matrix.orgtea
In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
noob_tea: can you explain again to me what this file is?
things like https://privatebin.net/?94cb53df2da29957#GhwCJiSyex4V4CPgw3fEJFwSEB5rBE1UfdZ8vgnujHW5
17:00:44
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