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17 Apr 2023
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil @room: The next meeting will take place in ~5 minutes - meeting link - live stream - meeting notes 14:24:10
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilQuick update for here as well: Meetings will be bi-weekly now and on Tuesday instead of Monday, same time though. The first bi-weekly one is in two weeks, 2023-05-0215:30:46
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Robert Hensing (roberth): Regarding RFC 140, I'd like to discuss Custom Arguments again 20:10:59
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil We introduced that to make it so that when there's a need for a custom argument to callPackage, one wouldn't have to switch away from using pkgs/unit, instead you could just add a definition to all-packages.nix with that argument. But that's just one possible exception, there's many others, like python3Packages.callPackage, callPackages, etc. 20:13:28
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil The main problem I have is that a nice property is lost like this: One cannot just look at pkgs/unit/he/hello/package.nix and be sure that that's how pkgs.hello is defined. Because now there's this hidden component of "What if it's overridden with custom arguments in all-packages.nix" 20:15:55
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI should probably just make this a comment in the RFC20:20:46
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilSee my comments here: https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/140#pullrequestreview-138903020723:09:12
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil We have at least 3 non-NAT shepherds now thanks to piegames! The steering committee should meet tomorrow and officially announce the shepherd team. Shortly after that (if the shepherd leader hasn't yet) I'll work to find a time to meet with the shepherds to move this along :) 23:22:56
18 Apr 2023
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth)
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
We introduced that to make it so that when there's a need for a custom argument to callPackage, one wouldn't have to switch away from using pkgs/unit, instead you could just add a definition to all-packages.nix with that argument. But that's just one possible exception, there's many others, like python3Packages.callPackage, callPackages, etc.
The difference is those exceptions don't appear and disappear overnight. callPackage arguments do.
15:39:50
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth) more detail here https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/140#discussion_r1170241659 15:49:41
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth)we've already been over this, so I'd like to keep it short15:49:58
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Robert Hensing (roberth): take a look at https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/140#discussion_r1169340835 15:51:58

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