| 20 Mar 2023 |
 Alyssa Ross | So I'm happy :) | 21:03:56 |
| Alyssa Ross | And I am still committed to getting consensus for the Rust change | 21:04:14 |
| Alyssa Ross | And that will involve talking to everybody who raised concerns about it, either as part of NAT or otherwise, and trying to get them on board. | 21:04:41 |
 infinisil | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
internal consensus to NAT team → RFC consensus That's the current idea yeah, though the RFC process has some flaws and is very very slow, I think infeasibly slow in the long run. At some point I'd like to propose that we (the entire community) can have something like fast-track RFCs, where we just create PR's with RFC-like descriptions to Nixpkgs, and announce those PR's the same way an FCP is announced (we can even pin the PR to the top!), with the same minimum waiting period. Just an idea for now though | 21:06:01 |
| Alyssa Ross | I think that having (earned) authority reside with open and accountable teams is going to be very healthy for the sustainability of Nixpkgs | 21:06:15 |
| infinisil | Oh and those PR's would of course have to be done and reviewed by a team of people (ilke the current RFCs require) | 21:06:41 |
 raitobezarius | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
That's the current idea yeah, though the RFC process has some flaws and is very very slow, I think infeasibly slow in the long run. At some point I'd like to propose that we (the entire community) can have something like fast-track RFCs, where we just create PR's with RFC-like descriptions to Nixpkgs, and announce those PR's the same way an FCP is announced (we can even pin the PR to the top!), with the same minimum waiting period. Just an idea for now though I am definitely interested into fast track RFCs :) | 21:07:08 |
| Alyssa Ross | yeah that sounds like a promising direction | 21:08:13 |
| infinisil | And of course I'd go through the RFC process itself to propose changes to it :) | 21:08:29 |
| infinisil | Relevant: https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/138 | 21:08:38 |
| Alyssa Ross | I love that idea too | 21:09:45 |
| Alyssa Ross | having RFCs on single PR threads is absolutely horrible | 21:09:59 |
| Alyssa Ross | I always wanted to move them to discourse, but having them in repos is even better I think | 21:10:09 |
| infinisil | Alyssa Ross: We do need a shepherd for that RFC :P | 21:11:41 |
| Alyssa Ross | In the last week I've been nominated for a shepherd team and joined the moderation team, so I think I need to make sure I can keep up with those commitments before I take on any more :P | 21:13:03 |
| infinisil | We did already have a meeting with the 2 shepherds (and me as an author), the third shepherd had to step down though due to time constraints. But I can say that this has been the cleanest and most focused RFC discussion I've experienced so far, especially withLinux Hackerman as a shepherd! | 21:13:19 |
| Alyssa Ross | i too am a linus fan | 21:13:48 |
| infinisil | In any case, feedback appreciated, there are unfortunately some downsides to the repo approach | 21:13:55 |
