| 21 Feb 2023 |
 Sandro 🐧 | Two things:
- we shouldn't use the hello package to accumulate all kinds of tests
- hello should definitely not have __cleanAttrs set
| 00:09:35 |
| Sandro 🐧 | Also I currently don't see the usecase why we would want to set __cleanAttrs on any package. It has the UX of moving everything into a let in and breaking all extensibility. | 00:13:46 |
 Artturin | In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
Also I currently don't see the usecase why we would want to set __cleanAttrs on any package. It has the UX of moving everything into a let in and breaking all extensibility. Why moving everything to let in? | 04:32:28 |
| Artturin | rec and finalAttrs should works as they do now | 04:33:43 |
| Artturin | It's possible to have finalAttrs values in passthru right? | 04:33:56 |
| Artturin | I think it'll be useful to have to explicitly declare all attrs that should be available outside of the package | 04:35:59 |
| Artturin | * I think it'll be useful to have to explicitly declare all public attrs | 04:36:37 |
| Sandro 🐧 | I was comparing it to having variables in let ins.
| 11:51:01 |
| Sandro 🐧 | Packages should expose all attrs written in the file otherwise overlays will become unnecessarily hard and right now I am completely against using it in any normal package. | 11:52:26 |
| Artturin | In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
Packages should expose all attrs written in the file otherwise overlays will become unnecessarily hard and right now I am completely against using it in any normal package. it won't affect overlays https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/217243#issuecomment-1438756128 | 17:29:00 |
| Artturin | In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
Packages should expose all attrs written in the file otherwise overlays will become unnecessarily hard and right now I am completely against using it in any normal package. * it won't affect override overlays https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/217243#issuecomment-1438756128 | 17:29:11 |
| Sandro 🐧 | If you are using overrideAttrs but sometimes you are constructing a new package by copying pname, version, src and patches from another package. Not exposing them by default just creates busy work and friction for downstream users. | 18:19:09 |
| 23 Feb 2023 |
|  @alejandrosame:matrix.org joined the room. | 17:54:27 |
| 27 Feb 2023 |
 infinisil | Unfortunately I won't be able to join today's meeting. Is there something somebody wanted to discuss today? If so, feel free to still have the meeting, but let me know beforehand so I can set up the live-stream/recording. Ping Robert Hensing (roberth) John Ericson growpotkin ( Alex Ameen ) tomberek | 12:40:09 |
| 1 Mar 2023 |
|  Fabián Heredia changed their display name from fabianhjr to Fabián Heredia. | 06:05:16 |
 tgamblin | Can anyone recommend a good contact for python support in Nix? Asking to attempt to involved some folks from Nix in larger Python packaging discussions. | 23:15:03 |
 Alyssa Ross | #python:nixos.org? | 23:37:04 |
| 2 Mar 2023 |
 Robert Hensing (roberth) | February 30 meeting notes; interesting. When was that? | 21:57:18 |
| infinisil | Robert Hensing (roberth): Oh damn, messed up the date, will fix! | 23:19:51 |
| 4 Mar 2023 |
|  nicolabrisotto joined the room. | 17:02:37 |
| 6 Mar 2023 |
| infinisil | @room: The next meeting will take place in ~10 minutes - meeting link - live stream - meeting notes | 15:21:04 |
| infinisil | Pairing with growpotkin ( Alex Ameen ) in https://meet.jit.si/nixpkgs-architecture on using modules for package, notepad: https://pad.lassul.us/lr4EhSckTJSByDLBLcm_-w?edit | 16:41:52 |
| infinisil | * (Edit: Not anymore) Pairing with growpotkin ( Alex Ameen ) in https://meet.jit.si/nixpkgs-architecture on using modules for package, notepad: https://pad.lassul.us/lr4EhSckTJSByDLBLcm_-w?edit | 18:30:17 |
 DavHau | One point that we might want to add to the problems:
Inconsistent configuration styles between NixOS (the module system) and Nixpkgs (function arguments, and an ad hoc config attribute set). | 18:50:28 |
| infinisil | DavHau: Feel free to! | 18:56:44 |
| DavHau | Already in bed. Will do tomorrow | 18:57:51 |
| infinisil | Oh right, good night! | 18:58:08 |
| infinisil | Who's interested in working together on the Rust tooling (involving rnix) for RFC 140? I'd like to schedule a weekly 2 hour call to hack on it together. If you're interested, please fill in your availability here: https://www.when2meet.com/?19082882-QESfj | 19:54:54 |
| infinisil | Wanja Hentze: ^ | 19:55:06 |
| 7 Mar 2023 |
| DavHau | I extended, re-structured and re-ordered the Problems section of the document. Hope that's fine, please check again. | 06:17:52 |
