| 27 Sep 2023 |
 PowerUser64 | yeah not much that can be done now | 10:10:46 |
| PowerUser64 | Redacted or Malformed Event | 10:11:08 |
| PowerUser64 | I hope it all goes well in the end | 10:11:34 |
 infinisil | I really think most people do agree with how it's going. I don't think there was a single person arguing for keeping the directory structure throughout the RFC | 10:13:00 |
| infinisil | Being able to tell new contributors "if you want to package foo, put it here" is very nice | 10:13:51 |
| PowerUser64 | Maybe #146 can help remedy some of my frustrations | 10:15:14 |
 lassulus | I think cateories should be a list in the meta field rather than a folder stuff is in | 10:16:01 |
 @piegames:matrix.org | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
I really think most people do agree with how it's going. I don't think there was a single person arguing for keeping the directory structure throughout the RFC Yep, the discussion skipped the contents of the RFC entirely and directly jumped to the bike shedding part ^^ | 10:16:15 |
 @syphoxy:matrix.org | RFC 146 is really promising and I hope it goes through as quickly as RFC 140 did. | 14:17:09 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | I'm not optimistic about that. 140 enjoyed a wide community consensus which is otherwise pretty rare | 15:26:47 |
| infinisil | I'm tending towards accepting 146, it's not bad. However I also think it's a distraction from other problems that would be more important to fix | 17:24:12 |
| infinisil | Losing the categorisation seems very minor in comparison | 17:28:02 |
| infinisil | Unrelated to that, an observation relating to PR CI checks in general: Aren't they kind of flawed? Because the main branch continuously updates, but the CI checks for each PR aren't re-run | 17:32:53 |
 K900 | They are | 17:33:07 |
| K900 | Ideally we'd have bors | 17:33:11 |
| K900 | But it's hard | 17:33:28 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | And is it worth the effort? | 17:33:44 |
| infinisil | I guess merge trains would improve on that | 17:33:45 |
| K900 | In reply to@piegames:matrix.org
And is it worth the effort? I think it's worth considering in the general effort to fix our CI situation | 17:34:14 |
| K900 | Is it worth doing by itself? Probably not | 17:34:24 |
| K900 | Is it worth doing as part of a bigger project to replace hydra/ofborg/etc? Absolutely yes | 17:34:49 |
| infinisil | piegames: On the scale of Nixpkgs it might be, because we have so many PR's, many of which linger around for a while | 17:34:53 |
| infinisil | Any CI checks that newly fail would then break on master when those PR's are merged | 17:35:11 |
| infinisil | In particular I'm thinking of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/211832#issuecomment-1732153092 here | 17:35:54 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | Btw this has a hard dependency of going through a merge bot for everything | 17:36:14 |
| infinisil | The first step should be to disallow definitions in all-packages.nix when they should be in pkgs/by-name instead. But if we just put that in a CI check, it would fail regularly for probably some days as people merge all-packages.nix changes in | 17:36:48 |
| K900 | In reply to@piegames:matrix.org
Btw this has a hard dependency of going through a merge bot for everything Not necessarily | 17:36:57 |
| K900 | But I also don't think this is too bad, generally | 17:37:13 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | Oh I absolutely do want a merge bot, and soon pretty please | 17:37:49 |
| infinisil | The idea given here should help for some cases: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/256788 | 17:38:34 |
