| 12 Mar 2022 |
 ramsey | Also, it's becoming increasingly popular (and more reliable) to use the Phar versions of tools like PHPUnit, Psalm, PHPStan, etc., but the phar versions can't be added to require-dev and installed using Composer, so you have to download them individually for your dev environment | 22:22:29 |
| ramsey | Phive helps us do this, so I'd be fine excluding PHPUnit, Psalm, PHPStan, etc. from Nix packages, as long as Phive is provided, so that we can easily download them for the environment | 22:23:20 |
| ramsey | Although, there is this, which might allow installing Phars with Composer: https://packagist.org/packages/phar-io/composer-plugin | 22:24:38 |
 Pol | I will focus on this tomorrow, it was on my to-do list! | 22:24:39 |
| ramsey | So, if that package does the trick, then even adding a separate nix package for Phive might not be necessary | 22:25:05 |
| ramsey | except they haven't updated it for the latest version of Composer, so it won't install ☹️ | 22:26:16 |
| Pol | In reply to @ramsey:matrix.org
Phive helps us do this, so I'd be fine excluding PHPUnit, Psalm, PHPStan, etc. from Nix packages, as long as Phive is provided, so that we can easily download them for the environment I fully agree. Some of those packages provide a SHIM version and it's just enough | 22:27:02 |
| Pol | I'll check phive in depth tomorrow | 22:27:43 |
| Pol | I wanted to also use phar versions of packages, but it's a bit against the practice in NixOS. | 22:28:49 |
| Pol | Example: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/development/php-packages/php-parallel-lint/default.nix | 22:30:07 |
| Pol | This tool provides a Phar, but we are building it ourselves. | 22:30:31 |
| Pol | I'm not particularly fan of this, but this is how it is. I guess there are maybe other valid reasons that I do not fully know yet. | 22:31:10 |
| ramsey | Is that because the Nix practice is to build them from source? | 22:32:19 |
| Pol | Yes | 22:33:05 |
| ramsey | oh, I see. That runs box build | 22:33:15 |
| Pol | Yes | 22:33:41 |
| ramsey | So, nix builds its own Phar instead of using the one provided by the maintainers. Interesting. I don't see how this is really relevant in PHP's case, since it's not packaging a binary for the target system. | 22:34:18 |
| Pol | Yes | 22:34:55 |
| ramsey | I bet grahamc (he/him) could shed some light on that 🙂 | 22:35:26 |
| Pol | Or the current PHP maintainers ! | 22:36:35 |
| ramsey | PHP maintainers wouldn’t be able to explain why Nix wants to build the Phars from source rather than use the pre-built Phars from the Composer package maintainers | 22:38:01 |
| Pol | I think Jan Tojnar might ! | 22:38:33 |
| ramsey | Oh. You mean the Nix PHP maintainers? | 22:39:09 |
| Pol | In reply to @ramsey:matrix.org
I'm trying to set up a development environment with nix pkgs, and Phive is one of the tools I need in that environment 🙂 You might want to have a look at what I use everyday: https://GitHub.com/loophp/nix-shell | 22:39:26 |
| Pol | In reply to @ramsey:matrix.org
Oh. You mean the Nix PHP maintainers? Yes :) | 22:39:37 |
| ramsey | I thought you meant the PHP internals developers 🤣 | 22:39:54 |
| Pol | Sorry about the confusion | 22:40:04 |
| ramsey | No worries | 22:40:44 |
| Pol | Going to turn off the lights here, I'll continue tomorrow | 22:42:11 |
| Pol | It's midnight, I need some sleep | 22:42:25 |
