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24 Nov 2024
@elikoga:matrix.orgelikoga Can someone open the door? 18:43:03
@koen:fediversity.euKoen (SynQ) de Jongecoming18:43:09
@viktor:kleen.orgViktorhttps://www.crowdsupply.com/signaloid/signaloid-c0-microsd20:38:17
@lennart:wheeze.nlWheeze_NLIt was a pleasure meeting you all, thank you for your hospitality.22:50:22
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilYeah this was super nice, thanks y'all! ❤️22:54:50
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil * 22:55:05
@elikoga:matrix.orgelikogaIt was great! Thank you to everyone attending and organizing for making this a fun and productive weekend ❄️22:55:55
25 Nov 2024
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk

It was a awesome seeing all of you (again), thanks everyone for coming! You made this the greatest Zürich ZHF hackathon ever.

I hope each of you could derive some pleasure from the event and take something away. Would love to keep up that spirit in May!

07:18:28
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk *

It was a awesome seeing all of you (again), thanks everyone for coming! You made this the greatest Zürich ZHF hackathon ever.

I hope each of you could derive some pleasure from the event and take something away — I sure did. Would love to keep up that spirit in May!

07:18:54
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk Thanks a lot ners and john-rodewald for making all of this possible, and thanks to das-g for your invaluable support with the location. 07:20:04
@nebucatnetzer13:matrix.orgnebucatnetzer13 I absolutely agree, it is getting better every time.
Loved the group dinner 💪.
08:21:23
@lilalambda:matrix.orgCorsin Pfister This was my first time at ZHF, and I had a great time! Cool group of people! I really enjoyed seeing with how much fun and enthusiasm this was organized and put together. I'd like to thank ners , john-rodewald , das-g and everyone else who helped organizing this event! The group dinner was also a highlight for me 🙂 08:27:49
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk changed the room topic to "https://zurich.nix.ug/ - Next ZHF event 23-24 November 2024 Report notes: https://pad.lassul.us/dAqTN5maSqCRcvHuSun-Xg#" from "https://zurich.nix.ug/ - Next ZHF event 23-24 November 2024".09:18:46
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerkHey all, I'd like to whip up a report to let others know what we've been up to. If you like to share you worked on, please do so here until this week Friday 2024-11-29: https://pad.lassul.us/dAqTN5maSqCRcvHuSun-Xg# One or two sentences is enough. Links and pictures would be great!09:22:08
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk * Hey all, I'd like to whip up a report to let others know what we've been up to. If you like to share what you worked on, please do so here until this week Friday 2024-11-29: https://pad.lassul.us/dAqTN5maSqCRcvHuSun-Xg# One or two sentences is enough. Links and pictures would be great!09:22:18
@ners:nixos.devners@room ping to help spread the word09:53:35
@ners:nixos.devners I‘ll send out a request for feedback later today or tomorrow. 09:57:38
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26 Nov 2024
@koen:procolix.comKoen de Jonge (SynQ)

When I upgrade my system from nixos-24.05 to nixos-24.11 I get this:

building Nix...
building the system configuration...
error:
       … while calling the 'head' builtin
         at /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/lib/attrsets.nix:1:35741:
       … while evaluating the attribute 'value'
         at /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/lib/modules.nix:1:33591:
       … while evaluating the option `system.build.toplevel':

       … while evaluating definitions from `/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixos/modules/system/activation/top-level.nix':

       (stack trace truncated; use '--show-trace' to show the full, detailed trace)

       error:
       Failed assertions:
       - The option definition `sound' in `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix' no longer has any effect; please remove it.
       The option was heavily overloaded and can be removed from most configurations.

Is there any way we can make this a bit more 'user friendly'?

11:35:15
@koen:procolix.comKoen de Jonge (SynQ) *

When I upgrade my system from nixos-24.05 to nixos-24.11 I get this:

building Nix...
building the system configuration...
error:
       … while calling the 'head' builtin
         at /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/lib/attrsets.nix:1:35741:
       … while evaluating the attribute 'value'
         at /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/lib/modules.nix:1:33591:
       … while evaluating the option `system.build.toplevel':

       … while evaluating definitions from `/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixos/modules/system/activation/top-level.nix':

       (stack trace truncated; use '--show-trace' to show the full, detailed trace)

       error:
       Failed assertions:
       - The option definition `sound' in `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix' no longer has any effect; please remove it.
       The option was heavily overloaded and can be removed from most configurations.

Is there any way we can make this a bit more 'user friendly'?
Also, how should I submit a ticket for this and at what location?

11:35:51
@koen:procolix.comKoen de Jonge (SynQ)

It is triggered by this entry in configuration.nix which comes as a default (in a previous install method):

  # Enable sound.
  sound.enable = true;
11:36:42
@elikoga:matrix.orgelikoga

This is a combination of both nix errors being verbose in the wrong way

And nixos evaluation assertions triggering overly verbose errors.

If only the error message showed up with a reference to the definition, would that be a good behavior?

11:36:53
@koen:procolix.comKoen de Jonge (SynQ)I fear we will lose a few users of nixos over this.11:36:57
@koen:procolix.comKoen de Jonge (SynQ)I would prefer that NixOS would just ignore the statement and throw a warning that it is depreciated.11:37:34
@elikoga:matrix.orgelikoga

This is done/possible with some other settings

However not sound apparently

11:38:00
@micmine:matrix.orgemilyAre the pictures that were taken available somewhere?11:39:43
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @koen:procolix.com
I would prefer that NixOS would just ignore the statement and throw a warning that it is depreciated.
Here's the relevant code: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/dafe47b3c8bb54c65e5a28bcad88894e4bb6a6e0/lib/modules.nix#L1104. This could relatively easily be changed to use config.warnings instead
11:41:31
@elikoga:matrix.orgelikoga Maybe there should be a mkDeprecatedOptionModule that warns for one release cycle? 11:42:15
@john-rodewald:nixos.devjohn-rodewald
In reply to @micmine:matrix.org
Are the pictures that were taken available somewhere?
We’re working on editing them. The group photo will be posted here later. :)
11:42:19

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