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15 Nov 2025
@kirelagin:matrix.orgkirelagin ok, actually, I am getting a meaningful stacktrace even with a regular build. It’s in the protobuf destruction, and the offending Python module is onnxruntime/capi/onnxruntime_pybind11_state.so 13:38:30
@sECuRE:matrix.orgzekjuryes. i’ll post the stack trace to the bug13:38:48
@sECuRE:matrix.orgzekjur* yes. i’ll post the stack trace to the bug: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/461064#issuecomment-353649984513:40:16
@sECuRE:matrix.orgzekjurNixOS even already includes debug symbols for most involved packages :) i updated the stack trace with symbols. but mweinelt already commented saying the problem is multiple versions of protobuf in Nix, and it’s being addressed already13:43:46
@raphiz:matrix.orgraphizPR ready for Review: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/46192413:52:29
@thomas-zahner:matrix.orgthomas-zahnerPackage fixed: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/461886 Now working on gerbera13:53:43
@ners:nixos.devners thomas-zahner: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/8a8e49ac2069bc3de799a20016d7e6ae6853a503/pkgs/tools/security/pass/extensions/update.nix#L20
(but use --replace-fail)
14:00:22
@ners:nixos.devners * thomas-zahner: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/8a8e49ac2069bc3de799a20016d7e6ae6853a503/pkgs/tools/security/pass/extensions/update.nix#L20
(--replace-fail /usr/share to $out/share)
14:00:42
@ners:nixos.devners * thomas-zahner: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/8a8e49ac2069bc3de799a20016d7e6ae6853a503/pkgs/tools/security/pass/extensions/update.nix#L20
(--replace-fail /usr/share $out/share)
14:00:56
@raphiz:matrix.orgraphizI found a bunch of unmaintained eclipse plugins that fail because the download side was also archived. What's the "nixpkgs" way to address this: Update the urls to the apache archive site and mark it as insecure or just drop them?14:18:36
@nebucatnetzer13:matrix.orgnebucatnetzer13The roboter video I've mentioned before. The part about the roboter I helped build is at 40:16 https://www.srf.ch/play/tv/einstein/video/einstein-bei-den-robotern?urn=urn:srf:video:9823d374-df36-440c-b632-0a3e63d649bb14:19:00
@raphiz:matrix.orgraphizPR ready for Review: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/46193514:31:20
@mfrischknecht:matrix.orgmfrischknecht

@ners:nixos.dev

https://github.com/latchset/clevis
https://github.com/latchset/tang

https://youtu.be/Dk6ZuydQt9I?si=2JuhfGiC08_YlVcZ
https://youtu.be/v7caQEcB6VU?si=WAQR_B0cU0nbVERV

15:32:30
@gabyx:matrix.orggabyx Fabio Lenherr: Chasch aecht dae no review churz 16:17:04
@gabyx:matrix.orggabyxhttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/46196616:17:07
@sECuRE:matrix.orgzekjuri don’t know how to read NixOS PR status well yet 😅. could someone tell me what the next step for https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/457095 is please? is it waiting for CI results? or is it stuck? does somebody need to do something?17:01:53
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@ners:nixos.dev :)

Sorry for the quality, I wasn't signed in on Matrix (installer image) and wanted to return the USB stick.

19:16:55
@bjth:matrix.orgBryan Honofhttps://youtu.be/aYQ_5c6m8Is?si=YvLtcpjwLbBuPQXg20:31:19
@ners:nixos.devners
In reply to @mfrischknecht:matrix.org
sandte ein Bild.
Ah, did you do nix run github:ners/trilby there? In the trilby image the CLI tool is already present so you can just run trilby install.
20:33:35
@nebucatnetzer13:matrix.orgnebucatnetzer13It is waiting for Darwin resources (MacOS). Id you don’t care for those then you are good to go. There just aren’t enough builders for Darwin to test things in a timely fashion as far as I know.20:33:43
@ners:nixos.devnersI‘ll bring my own USB stick tomorrow. :)20:33:45
@nebucatnetzer13:matrix.orgnebucatnetzer13Ah I didn’t imagine so many fingers but more fists that move into position😁 I just remember another video you can share if it is available. The maglev thing that moves very fast, from Beckhoff IIRC?20:39:53
16 Nov 2025
@sECuRE:matrix.orgzekjurah, thanks! i just figured out that yesterday, i looked at this PR on a mac, and didn’t realize you could scroll down to reveal more checks, because macOS hides scroll bars by default! today i look at it on linux, see the scroll bar, and immediately the whole thing makes a lot more sense 😅07:10:57
@sECuRE:matrix.orgzekjurdoes anyone know what the bottleneck is for darwin builders? is it money? availability? hosting? admin? something else?07:12:00
@bjth:matrix.orgBryan Honof

https://youtu.be/0c73CB6t7ZM?si=HylxIFVLfD-Jyox-

Cant seem to find the one where it’s moving extremely fast.

07:32:58
@bjth:matrix.orgBryan Honof I don’t know what the situation is for the nixpkgs infra, but I know they’re a pain to keep running for long durations of time. They tend to break in all sorts of interesting and new ways. 08:00:47
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilhttps://github.com/infinisil/system/blob/c9a6f70e9c55b7d39cf2cfc83c6742ca56823bca/default.nix#L37-L5410:20:22
@apeioo:matrix.orgLorenz https://wiki.nixos.org/wiki/Nixpkgs/Patching_Nixpkgs 10:22:31
@gabyx:matrix.orggabyxWorking on tlrender.10:32:22

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