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26 Nov 2024
@koen:fediversity.eu@koen:fediversity.euWe know it is going to break for a lot of people. Can we factor it in such a way that it breaks and points to the right place that shows ‘how do I fix my sound for 24.11’ without showing multiple pages of verbose errors?11:59:30
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAnyways, this definitely isn't the right place to discuss it. I recommend opening an issue for this and checking the original PR for why it was done this way12:00:02
@koen:fediversity.eu@koen:fediversity.eu
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
Anyways, this definitely isn't the right place to discuss it. I recommend opening an issue for this and checking the original PR for why it was done this way
I have looked for that pr and cannot find anything (but that could be my searching skills). 		12:00:51
@elikoga:matrix.orgelikoga
In reply to @elikoga:matrix.org

Also "kill [...] with fire" seems a bit heavy handed, it could certainly be spaced out on 2 release cycles with a warning in the first one

https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/326262

This one 		12:01:06
@koen:fediversity.eu@koen:fediversity.euOk I will have a look and summarize what is said here.12:01:26
@elikoga:matrix.orgelikoga (link to git blame of relevant code line for convenience https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blame/master/nixos/modules/services/audio/alsa.nix#L6) 12:04:46
@elikoga:matrix.orgelikoga * (link to git blame of relevant code line for convenience https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blame/master/nixos/modules/services/audio/alsa.nix#L6 ) 12:05:01
@koen:procolix.comKoen de Jonge (SynQ)
In reply to @elikoga:matrix.org
This one

Reading that thread makes me have ambivalent feelings:

  1. I want to just forget about it because there is no consensus there (other than K900 who is very clear in that the option sound.enable 'just has to be killed with fire'). That I can fix my config and just leave it with that. I.E. that I do not feel comfortable (as a newcomer) to engage in that discussion'.
  2. I still want to make other 'casual NixOS users' have a smoother experience if only for the reason that this 'stream of errors' is a preventable occurance.

Is that PR really the right place to talk about that?

12:16:53
27 Nov 2024
@das-g:matrix.orgdas-g
In reply to @koen:procolix.com

Reading that thread makes me have ambivalent feelings:

  1. I want to just forget about it because there is no consensus there (other than K900 who is very clear in that the option sound.enable 'just has to be killed with fire'). That I can fix my config and just leave it with that. I.E. that I do not feel comfortable (as a newcomer) to engage in that discussion'.
  2. I still want to make other 'casual NixOS users' have a smoother experience if only for the reason that this 'stream of errors' is a preventable occurance.

Is that PR really the right place to talk about that?

Maybe a new "topic" (= thread) in the forum would a an appropriate place? I'm unsure what category there would be most fitting, though. 		11:47:31
@das-g:matrix.orgdas-g
In reply to @koen:procolix.com

Reading that thread makes me have ambivalent feelings:

  1. I want to just forget about it because there is no consensus there (other than K900 who is very clear in that the option sound.enable 'just has to be killed with fire'). That I can fix my config and just leave it with that. I.E. that I do not feel comfortable (as a newcomer) to engage in that discussion'.
  2. I still want to make other 'casual NixOS users' have a smoother experience if only for the reason that this 'stream of errors' is a preventable occurance.

Is that PR really the right place to talk about that?

*

Is that PR really the right place to talk about that?

Maybe a new "topic" (= thread) in the forum would a an appropriate place? I'm unsure what category there would be most fitting, though.

11:47:56
@ners:nixos.devners@room as usual we posted a request for feedback. Please take a few minutes to leave your thoughts, critique, suggestions, praise, haikus…: https://github.com/nix-community/developer-workshop/issues/714:04:57
@john-rodewald:nixos.devjohn-rodewald
In reply to @ners:nixos.dev
@room as usual we posted a request for feedback. Please take a few minutes to leave your thoughts, critique, suggestions, praise, haikus…: https://github.com/nix-community/developer-workshop/issues/7

Also, here's a shared photo album that currently just contains our group photo. Feel free to add your own if you have something cool to share from the weekend. We'll try to get in the rest that we took ASAP. :)

(We'll soon have to find a new photo spot for our ever-growing group 😬)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/bpUVA7kYm36K7aLW8

14:11:37
29 Nov 2024
@ners:nixos.devners@room as a gentle reminder, please take a moment to leave some feedback about the ZHF hackathon here: https://github.com/nix-community/developer-workshop/issues/707:37:26
@steveej0:matrix.orgsteveej
In reply to @ners:nixos.dev
@room as a gentle reminder, please take a moment to leave some feedback about the ZHF hackathon here: https://github.com/nix-community/developer-workshop/issues/7
reads similar to the meetup feedback survey that i answered yesterday. do you prefer comments on this issue? 		07:45:27
@ners:nixos.devnersI did not realise Meetup had a survey. We don't usually get responses there, let me check.07:46:16
@ners:nixos.devnersHistorically we've always collected feedback on those Github tickets, so that's where I prefer it for now.07:46:43
30 Nov 2024
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