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16 Jan 2024
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldrdid you offer just an eval or is there a build following on?03:53:44
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius it was just a nix-eval-jobs :P 03:53:56
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr(no worries either way)03:54:00
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusdispatching them to the builder would be kinda annoying tbh03:54:09
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI'd need to push the curses and I'm not confident they would carry onto the build03:54:18
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(because hydra will have a different way of doing the evaluation)03:54:29
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusdon't hesitate to poke me later if you need stuff03:55:36
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17 Jan 2024
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr

I've been thinking about B-right/V and how to help it out a bit produce working things... so one of the main "issues" is that it is not a unix, so many assumptions fail in programs...

... but it does have a unixemu runtime / alternative set of libraries implementing a lot of unixness.

so the main problem(s) I'm seeing here is as follows:

  • I need the produced gcc to work either with the default libg (their libc) or with unixemu
  • the produced gcc needs to links to something to work... but I guess it's fine if it links to unixemu stuff? (see follow-ups)
  • using the specs files to fix default linking might not be the proper solution here

that is because I would like to, somehow, have:

  • The default stdenv assume linking with unixemu things (just a few CFLAGS/LDFLAGS
  • A brightv.sdkStdenv that turns of that knob and adds the "non-unixemu" flags

so I guess I need to find a way to get the cross gcc built without patching in the "brightv-flavoured" environment, and without somehow tainting the stdenvwtih whatever workarounds that implies using

21:17:41
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr *

I've been thinking about B-right/V and how to help it out a bit produce working things... so one of the main "issues" is that it is not a unix, so many assumptions fail in programs...

... but it does have a unixemu runtime / alternative set of libraries implementing a lot of unixness.

so the main problem(s) I'm seeing here is as follows:

  • I need the produced gcc to work either with the default libg (their libc) or with unixemu
  • the produced gcc needs to links to something to work... but I guess it's fine if it links to unixemu stuff? (see follow-ups)
  • using the specs files to fix default linking might not be the proper solution here

that is because I would like to, somehow, have:

  • The default stdenv assume linking with unixemu things (just a few CFLAGS/LDFLAGS
  • A brightv.sdkStdenv that turns of that knob and adds the "non-unixemu" flags

so I guess I need to find a way to get the cross gcc built without patching in the "brightv-flavoured" environment, and without somehow tainting the stdenv with whatever workarounds that implies using

21:17:52
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldris there anything in there that sounds incorrect?21:18:25
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr *

I've been thinking about B-right/V and how to help it out a bit produce working things... so one of the main "issues" is that it is not a unix, so many assumptions fail in programs...

... but it does have a unixemu runtime / alternative set of libraries implementing a lot of unixness.

so the main problem(s) I'm seeing here is as follows:

  • I need the produced gcc to work either with the default libg (their libc) or with unixemu
  • the produced gcc needs to links to something to work... but I guess it's fine if it links to unixemu stuff? (see follow-ups)
  • using the specs files to fix default linking might not be the proper solution here

that is because I would like to, somehow, have:

  • The default stdenv assume linking with unixemu things (just a few CFLAGS/LDFLAGS
  • A brightv.sdkStdenv that turns off that knob and adds the "non-unixemu" flags

so I guess I need to find a way to get the cross gcc built without patching in the "brightv-flavoured" environment, and without somehow tainting the stdenv with whatever workarounds that implies using

21:20:26
25 Jan 2024
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30 Jan 2024
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2 Feb 2024
@p14:matrix.orgp14 is gettext meant to have bash in its buildInputs? (Should it not be a nativeBuildInput?) Under pkgsStatic, it gets propagated. So if you do something like nix build --dry-run nixpkgs#pkgsStatic.gettext, it fetches bash-dev, because under cross, the buildInput becomes a propagatedBuildInput for some reason. I noticed because I was puzzled that bash ended up as a dependency. 19:38:40
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa RossYes, because it installs bash scripts that need to have their shebang patched.19:45:32
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa RossIIRC19:46:16
@p14:matrix.orgp14 Nothing crossOverlays = [(self: super: { gettext = super.gettext.override { bash = super.buildPackages.bash; }; })]; can't fix I suppose... 🤫 19:50:51
3 Feb 2024
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6 Feb 2024
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmotNot particularly exotic but - somehow while messing with nixpkgs for FreeBSD I broke llvm tests on Linux. The failing test case seems to complain about the dot executable not being in the path? I can’t find any evidence of this having ever been a dependency or a disabled test, so what could have gone wrong?02:40:11
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmotThe change that broke it had nothing to do with llvm - I changed a var that should be a no-op on Linux for bison02:41:42

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