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 pandapip1 | Has anyone tried combining postmarketos with nixos? I'm curious about the feasibility of nixos on mobile. | 12:58:02 |
 @lotte:chir.rs | There's nixos-mobile but admittedly I haven't tried it and it's also not postmarketos either | 12:58:57 |
 K900 | mobile-nixos is currently not very maintained | 12:59:24 |
| K900 | But it is effectively what you're asking for | 12:59:29 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | Relatedly I do wonder what it would take to port a new phone with upstream-supported kernel to it (either postmarketos or nixos) | 15:23:24 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | No upstream device tree though | 15:23:35 |
| K900 | I mean, if mainline actually supports it, it'll probably just work | 15:23:49 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | The soc is supported, and another device with the soc | 15:24:19 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | But the DTS for my device isn't upstream | 15:24:29 |
| K900 | You can patch it in | 15:26:19 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | I looked at the device tree for my device and it seems very different, referring to drivers that do not exist upstream | 15:26:47 |
| K900 | There's a PR that allows quickly building out of tree DTS but it's bad and the person that wrote it ignores feedback | 15:26:50 |
| K900 | But you could pick it up | 15:26:50 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | Like at a minimum all of the display stuff wouldn't work | 15:27:19 |
| K900 | Well you'd have to port that if there's no mainline compatible tree yesn | 15:27:51 |
| K900 | * | 15:27:55 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | yeah i guess i have to reverse-engineer the firmware because at least on the sony device that i do not have and is supported upstream it just uses the framebuffer at a fixed address | 15:29:02 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | tbh i could try to run the sony dts but that supposedly doesn’t work | 15:29:15 |
| K900 | I'm guessing it's just using whatever dumb framebuffer set up by the earlier boot stages then | 15:31:32 |
| K900 | And not doing GPU stuff correctly | 15:31:38 |
| K900 | Which will also make the experience of actually using the thing significantly worse | 15:31:50 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | ah | 15:32:20 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | so the downstream kernel might be better? | 15:32:28 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | it’s not yet EOL :D barely | 15:34:13 |
| K900 | Better in some ways, likely significantly worse in others | 15:34:15 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | 5.4 lts | 15:34:16 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | yeah i tried running it on my older phone but there the kernel is so old most of the software doesn’t even run on it | 15:38:29 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | ah yeah display is specifically marked as borken eyah | 15:46:23 |
