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16 Jan 2024
@samueldr:matrix.org@samueldr:matrix.orgplausible03:52:41
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthat's why I had to fiddle with a lot of stuff03:52:50
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusbecause you don't have a bootstrap on your platform, do you?03:52:56
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusso if I tried a native evaluation, everything would fail03:53:00
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusbecause you don't even have Nix on your thing03:53:04
@samueldr:matrix.org@samueldr:matrix.orgoh right... I looked at attr, not name03:53:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusyep03:53:12
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusyou can see the outPath03:53:18
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusit contains your target system03:53:22
@samueldr:matrix.org@samueldr:matrix.orgyeah, it's my bad03:53:33
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusbut Hydra setup will be much better than all those hacks, so I advise you to do it nonetheless03:53:37
@samueldr:matrix.org@samueldr:matrix.orgdid you offer just an eval or is there a build following on?03:53:44
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius it was just a nix-eval-jobs :P 03:53:56
@samueldr:matrix.org@samueldr:matrix.org(no worries either way)03:54:00
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusdispatching them to the builder would be kinda annoying tbh03:54:09
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI'd need to push the curses and I'm not confident they would carry onto the build03:54:18
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(because hydra will have a different way of doing the evaluation)03:54:29
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusdon't hesitate to poke me later if you need stuff03:55:36
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17 Jan 2024
@samueldr:matrix.org@samueldr:matrix.org

I've been thinking about B-right/V and how to help it out a bit produce working things... so one of the main "issues" is that it is not a unix, so many assumptions fail in programs...

... but it does have a unixemu runtime / alternative set of libraries implementing a lot of unixness.

so the main problem(s) I'm seeing here is as follows:

  • I need the produced gcc to work either with the default libg (their libc) or with unixemu
  • the produced gcc needs to links to something to work... but I guess it's fine if it links to unixemu stuff? (see follow-ups)
  • using the specs files to fix default linking might not be the proper solution here

that is because I would like to, somehow, have:

  • The default stdenv assume linking with unixemu things (just a few CFLAGS/LDFLAGS
  • A brightv.sdkStdenv that turns of that knob and adds the "non-unixemu" flags

so I guess I need to find a way to get the cross gcc built without patching in the "brightv-flavoured" environment, and without somehow tainting the stdenvwtih whatever workarounds that implies using

21:17:41
@samueldr:matrix.org@samueldr:matrix.org *

I've been thinking about B-right/V and how to help it out a bit produce working things... so one of the main "issues" is that it is not a unix, so many assumptions fail in programs...

... but it does have a unixemu runtime / alternative set of libraries implementing a lot of unixness.

so the main problem(s) I'm seeing here is as follows:

  • I need the produced gcc to work either with the default libg (their libc) or with unixemu
  • the produced gcc needs to links to something to work... but I guess it's fine if it links to unixemu stuff? (see follow-ups)
  • using the specs files to fix default linking might not be the proper solution here

that is because I would like to, somehow, have:

  • The default stdenv assume linking with unixemu things (just a few CFLAGS/LDFLAGS
  • A brightv.sdkStdenv that turns of that knob and adds the "non-unixemu" flags

so I guess I need to find a way to get the cross gcc built without patching in the "brightv-flavoured" environment, and without somehow tainting the stdenv with whatever workarounds that implies using

21:17:52
@samueldr:matrix.org@samueldr:matrix.orgis there anything in there that sounds incorrect?21:18:25
@samueldr:matrix.org@samueldr:matrix.org *

I've been thinking about B-right/V and how to help it out a bit produce working things... so one of the main "issues" is that it is not a unix, so many assumptions fail in programs...

... but it does have a unixemu runtime / alternative set of libraries implementing a lot of unixness.

so the main problem(s) I'm seeing here is as follows:

  • I need the produced gcc to work either with the default libg (their libc) or with unixemu
  • the produced gcc needs to links to something to work... but I guess it's fine if it links to unixemu stuff? (see follow-ups)
  • using the specs files to fix default linking might not be the proper solution here

that is because I would like to, somehow, have:

  • The default stdenv assume linking with unixemu things (just a few CFLAGS/LDFLAGS
  • A brightv.sdkStdenv that turns off that knob and adds the "non-unixemu" flags

so I guess I need to find a way to get the cross gcc built without patching in the "brightv-flavoured" environment, and without somehow tainting the stdenv with whatever workarounds that implies using

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25 Jan 2024
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