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13 Jul 2023
@artemis:arty.chatartemisactually here is my whole `emerge --info` https://dpaste.com/22NWU74FE while i am at it09:05:52
@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.orgI'll try to reproduce locally and if I fail we'll try to compare the build logs for difference.09:15:05
@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.org Built file locally for me: https://bpa.st/raw/SI6ZU. What log do you get with $ nix build --no-link github:NixOS/nixpkgs/9af373a61647257d16ae6062cddaa9094d24920c#pkgsCross.riscv64.libtool? 10:11:29
@artemis:arty.chatartemis
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Built file locally for me: https://bpa.st/raw/SI6ZU. What log do you get with $ nix build --no-link github:NixOS/nixpkgs/9af373a61647257d16ae6062cddaa9094d24920c#pkgsCross.riscv64.libtool?
http://dpaste.com/6SMJ92MK9
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@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.org Ended up being a libtool deficiency (current unstable is less unstable): https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/167071#issuecomment-1634992962 22:24:18
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14 Jul 2023
@sorear:matrix.orgsorearis useLLVM a topic for here? i've been trying to get it to work with current llvm, with mixed results00:09:28
@emilytrau:matrix.orgemilytrau sorear: would you tell us more about what you're trying to do? :) 09:52:57
@emilytrau:matrix.orgemilytrau and what issues you're running into 09:54:00
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@p14:matrix.orgp14 On aarch64-linux, pkgsCross.musl64.pkgsStatic.stdenv stopped being a cache hit sometime around the 26th of May. Sha eb5cd54d0 looks to be the first commit at which it is missing on the nixos-23.05 branch, but the non cross stdenv also broke/stopped being a cache hit then by the looks of things.
Does anyone have any idea why it might have gone missing and can we bring it back… ?
I would also like to have the equivalent, but from x86 to aarch64 cross.
11:19:29
@alex:tunstall.xyzAlex
In reply to @p14:matrix.org
On aarch64-linux, pkgsCross.musl64.pkgsStatic.stdenv stopped being a cache hit sometime around the 26th of May. Sha eb5cd54d0 looks to be the first commit at which it is missing on the nixos-23.05 branch, but the non cross stdenv also broke/stopped being a cache hit then by the looks of things.
Does anyone have any idea why it might have gone missing and can we bring it back… ?
I would also like to have the equivalent, but from x86 to aarch64 cross.

Have you tried building it yourself or looking at the job status on Hydra?

Usually, cache misses imply a failed build.

11:20:20
@p14:matrix.orgp14Funny, you should ask, I left it running for the last 15 minutes and it just finished successfully.11:20:50
@p14:matrix.orgp14
In reply to @alex:tunstall.xyz

Have you tried building it yourself or looking at the job status on Hydra?

Usually, cache misses imply a failed build.

So it does look like it builds but is missing for some other reason. What bit of the hydra infrastructure would cause it to become a cache hit ordinarily?
11:21:48
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@alex:tunstall.xyzAlex
In reply to @p14:matrix.org
So it does look like it builds but is missing for some other reason. What bit of the hydra infrastructure would cause it to become a cache hit ordinarily?

A successful build. Everything Hydra builds is cached.

So either Hydra lost the need to build it to build its jobs (due to job changes or failed evaluation), or your local build of the package doesn't have the same derivation as that built by Hydra.

11:24:41
@p14:matrix.orgp14I’m only building nixpkgs unmodified from upstream, No overlays or anything like that. I’m wondering if hydra stopped needing to build it? How would I tell what pulled it into the hydra build when it was working, and then look for that in today’s state?11:26:17
@p14:matrix.orgp14Unfortunately the standard stdenv also stopped being a cache hit for a while around a similar time. I tried doing a git bisect where I skip commits if the ordinary standard environment does not build. Unfortunately, this points at a large set of commits including merges from staging.11:27:43
@alex:tunstall.xyzAlex
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I’m only building nixpkgs unmodified from upstream, No overlays or anything like that. I’m wondering if hydra stopped needing to build it? How would I tell what pulled it into the hydra build when it was working, and then look for that in today’s state?
I'd probably bisect until I find the exact commit where Hydra stopped building it, then look at what changed and how it affects the build closure using nix why-depends --derivation.
11:27:48
@p14:matrix.orgp14The commit pointed to by the bisect is the binutils patch (sha mentioned above), which is suspicious. But that requires rebuilding quite a bit of stuff.11:30:23
@alex:tunstall.xyzAlexFWIW stdenv depends on binutils11:31:01
@p14:matrix.orgp14(That is, a bisect without skipping bad ordinary stdenvs)11:31:07
@p14:matrix.orgp14Yeah, the fact that commit is not a hit makes me wonder if something else went wrong? I suppose with the periodic rebuilds it could be anything between that commit and the next commit built by hydra? How would I figure out which commits were built by hydra so I can look at them?11:32:18
@alex:tunstall.xyzAlexHydra builds practically every commit. Look in the "inputs" tab for each evaluation. The evaluations list also shows whenever an input changes version.11:33:43
@p14:matrix.orgp14I am struggling to understand how Hydra built this derivation. I am looking at the release 2305 nixos jobset, and the oldest thing there. I searching for pkgsStatic does show something up, but not pkgsCross.11:40:10
@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.org I would guess that only cross-trunk jobset from https://hydra.nixos.org/project/nixpkgs#tabs-project would build cross-compilers. 15:06:19
@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.orgIt might be that you were lucky to try 23.05 when it was very close to trunk when binaries lied around. But I could completely misinterpret it as well.15:07:10
@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.orgAnd looking at https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixpkgs/cross-trunk there was a severe regression ~today: we lost 812 extra jobs.15:09:48

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