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@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/298849 Alyssa Ross rhelmot I separated out the freebsd13 -> freebsd in a commit, can we PR that alone, hopefully to master? 17:14:18
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson Then I hope we can shrink the diff by restoring ideomatic splicing rather than needing to use buildFreebsd 17:16:32
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson(something hopefully made clearer after my per-package file PR :))17:16:52
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson

rhelmot: in both the older versions of your PRs, and the latest rebase, I am getting

In file included from /nix/store/k5qq133jmgn1zck6npiw5q0j16m24wsr-libmd-1.1.0/include/sha.h:32,
                 from xinstall.c:66:
/nix/store/k5qq133jmgn1zck6npiw5q0j16m24wsr-libmd-1.1.0/include/sha.h:36:9: error: unknown type name 'SHA_CTX'
   36 | typedef SHA1_CTX SHA_CTX;
      |         ^~~~~~~~
In file included from /nix/store/k5qq133jmgn1zck6npiw5q0j16m24wsr-libmd-1.1.0/include/sha256.h:32,
                 from xinstall.c:67:
/build/xinstall-bootstrap-filtered-src/lib/libnetbsd/sha2.h:38:10: fatal error: sha384.h: No such file or directory
   38 | #include <sha384.h>
      |          ^~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make: stopped in /build/xinstall-bootstrap-filtered-src/usr.bin/xinstall
error: builder for '/nix/store/9y57p11i78ibl1d032l1szjyhqjch15r-xinstall-bootstrap-14.0.drv' failed with exit code 1;
       last 10 log lines:
       > In file included from /nix/store/k5qq133jmgn1zck6npiw5q0j16m24wsr-libmd-1.1.0/include/sha256.h:32,
       >                  from xinstall.c:67:
       > /build/xinstall-bootstrap-filtered-src/lib/libnetbsd/sha2.h:38:10: fatal error: sha384.h: No such file or directory
       >    38 | #include <sha384.h>
       >       |          ^~~~~~~~~~
       > compilation terminated.
       > *** Error code 1
       >
       > Stop.
       > make: stopped in /build/xinstall-bootstrap-filtered-src/usr.bin/xinstall
       For full logs, run 'nix-store -l /nix/store/9y57p11i78ibl1d032l1szjyhqjch15r-xinstall-bootstrap-14.0.drv'.
18:52:49
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonthis failure18:52:52
@artemist:mildlyfunctional.gayartemist
In reply to @Ericson2314:matrix.org
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/298849 Alyssa Ross rhelmot I separated out the freebsd13 -> freebsd in a commit, can we PR that alone, hopefully to master?
That sounds like a good first change, we can work on sandboxing more later. 		20:47:36
@artemist:mildlyfunctional.gayartemist
In reply to @Ericson2314:matrix.org

rhelmot: in both the older versions of your PRs, and the latest rebase, I am getting

In file included from /nix/store/k5qq133jmgn1zck6npiw5q0j16m24wsr-libmd-1.1.0/include/sha.h:32,
                 from xinstall.c:66:
/nix/store/k5qq133jmgn1zck6npiw5q0j16m24wsr-libmd-1.1.0/include/sha.h:36:9: error: unknown type name 'SHA_CTX'
   36 | typedef SHA1_CTX SHA_CTX;
      |         ^~~~~~~~
In file included from /nix/store/k5qq133jmgn1zck6npiw5q0j16m24wsr-libmd-1.1.0/include/sha256.h:32,
                 from xinstall.c:67:
/build/xinstall-bootstrap-filtered-src/lib/libnetbsd/sha2.h:38:10: fatal error: sha384.h: No such file or directory
   38 | #include <sha384.h>
      |          ^~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make: stopped in /build/xinstall-bootstrap-filtered-src/usr.bin/xinstall
error: builder for '/nix/store/9y57p11i78ibl1d032l1szjyhqjch15r-xinstall-bootstrap-14.0.drv' failed with exit code 1;
       last 10 log lines:
       > In file included from /nix/store/k5qq133jmgn1zck6npiw5q0j16m24wsr-libmd-1.1.0/include/sha256.h:32,
       >                  from xinstall.c:67:
       > /build/xinstall-bootstrap-filtered-src/lib/libnetbsd/sha2.h:38:10: fatal error: sha384.h: No such file or directory
       >    38 | #include <sha384.h>
       >       |          ^~~~~~~~~~
       > compilation terminated.
       > *** Error code 1
       >
       > Stop.
       > make: stopped in /build/xinstall-bootstrap-filtered-src/usr.bin/xinstall
       For full logs, run 'nix-store -l /nix/store/9y57p11i78ibl1d032l1szjyhqjch15r-xinstall-bootstrap-14.0.drv'.
I haven't seen this before, I'll test it 		20:47:51
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson artemist: ah right you are working on all the nix bsd things too? 20:58:51
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson
In reply to @artemist:mildlyfunctional.gay
That sounds like a good first change, we can work on sandboxing more later.
In any event, if one of you could PR that first commit with the full rationale (I vaguely remember there being an issue about FreeBSD having a stable enough ABI or whatever after all, but I forgot) 		21:01:26
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson
In reply to @artemist:mildlyfunctional.gay
That sounds like a good first change, we can work on sandboxing more later.
* In any event, if one of you could PR that first commit with the full rationale (I vaguely remember there being an issue about FreeBSD having a stable enough ABI or whatever after all, but I forget) that would be good 		21:01:34
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn EricsonI don't have the information to write the rationale myself21:01:44
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson * https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/298849 Alyssa Ross rhelmot I separated out the freebsd13 -> freebsd in a commit, can we PR that alone, hopefully to master rather than staging? 21:01:54
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@anderson_torres:matrix.org@anderson_torres:matrix.org
In reply to @Ericson2314:matrix.org
In any event, if one of you could PR that first commit with the full rationale (I vaguely remember there being an issue about FreeBSD having a stable enough ABI or whatever after all, but I forget) that would be good

POLA?

https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/glossary/

23:45:15
@anderson_torres:matrix.org@anderson_torres:matrix.org> Principle Of Least Astonishment > As FreeBSD evolves, changes visible to the user should be kept as unsurprising as possible. For example, arbitrarily rearranging system startup variables in /etc/defaults/rc.conf violates POLA. Developers consider POLA when contemplating user-visible system changes. 23:45:37
@anderson_torres:matrix.org@anderson_torres:matrix.org* > Principle Of Least Astonishment > As FreeBSD evolves, changes visible to the user should be kept as unsurprising as possible. For example, arbitrarily rearranging system startup variables in /etc/defaults/rc.conf violates POLA. Developers consider POLA when contemplating user-visible system changes. 23:46:00
8 Apr 2024
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonhmm maybe02:40:43
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonnot sure02:40:44
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmot I think a more compelling proof is some of the stuff that they have kept around for compatibility 02:41:54
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmotThere are versions of syscalls which are compatible with FreeBSD 9 at least02:42:13
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmot Like the name is xxxxxx_compat9 or something 02:42:34
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmothttps://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/blob/main/sys/kern/syscalls.master02:53:49
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmotOh oops this one is much more obviously compelling https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/blob/main/sys/kern/syscalls.c02:59:54
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmot Based on the descriptions of the former I think you can turn off compat but it’s an opt out situation 03:01:00

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