| 25 Mar 2023 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.how | there are ways we can keep it isomorphic just by messing around with caches and stuff, and fix these problems just like that | 12:56:39 |
 7c6f434c | If you give up on «actually can eval anywhere», I won't call Nix the ideal setup. Maybe looking at what Guix did, noticing it is still not the best direction, and designing a new Nix-like-tolerable-on-low-RAM without giving up on data-crunching-completeness… | 12:58:39 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | I quite like the idea of hosting the top level closures somewhere like latest.mysytem.com and then having systemd pull it down on a regular basis and activate it | 13:01:24 |
| 7c6f434c | (I am not saying I have a coherent vision how it would be, not yet) | 13:01:26 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | There's no nix involved in that | 13:01:29 |
| 7c6f434c | Well, without Nix usable for configuration… | 13:01:42 |
| 7c6f434c | I guess the next level is a cheap subscription service where you can fine-tune your system and add the closure to the update service… Given Nix deduplication, it won't scale too badly | 13:03:45 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | I don't really get it, you can self host all this super easy | 13:04:59 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | The webroot of the system closure is one line of nix | 13:05:17 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | https://github.com/MatthewCroughan/nixcfg/blob/master/hosts/hetznix/modules/androidUpdate.nix#L8 | 13:05:38 |
| 7c6f434c | Well, if you wanted to sell devices pre-flashed! | 13:05:39 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | Like here's how I do the same for my robotnix device | 13:05:45 |
| 7c6f434c | You kind of want people to be able to use it without having touched Nix on Aarch64 yet | 13:06:00 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | In reply to @7c6f434c:nitro.chat
Well, if you wanted to sell devices pre-flashed! If you're suggesting that we do devices with secure boot, with our keys loaded and stuff, that would be cool | 13:06:14 |
| 7c6f434c | I guess sourcing Aarch64 with non-malicious Secure Boot is maybe doable but surely a pain | 13:06:57 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | And we'd provide a service where you give us closures and we deploy as long as you have mobile-nixos.updater.enable = true and a URL pointed at update.mobile-nixos.org, yeah.. | 13:07:03 |
| 7c6f434c | Nah-nah-nah! You give us configurations and we add it to the list of closures to provide in cache | 13:07:44 |
| 7c6f434c | User has an option to not think in terms of building on the target arch | 13:08:11 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | So you even build it too? That's cool | 13:08:52 |
| 7c6f434c | I mean, I myself currently optimise for evaluating on my devices then just pulling from Hydra | 13:09:28 |
| 7c6f434c | (and then I try to trim the base system and install stuff I actually care about from Nix, without bothering with the low-level installs outside my laptop) | 13:10:26 |
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| 26 Mar 2023 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | samueldr: https://mobile.nixos.org/getting-started.html | 01:55:00 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | I found one mention of the bootloader needing to be unlocked, here, that's good enough! | 01:55:13 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | I suppose it's not worth duplicating in the device-specific details | 01:55:26 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | Although I did find it in the wrong order. LineageOS instructions duplicate a lot of information. | 01:55:44 |
 @sandro:supersandro.de | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/214185 | 22:58:58 |
| 27 Mar 2023 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | samueldr: Is there a mobile nixos channel or a better channel for questions I should be in, I do not want to keep annoying you with pings. | 08:03:16 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | I'm using the OnePlus 6, with the default system config from the documentation, I plugged a USB C keyboard into the device and it doesn't even power the keyboard that was plugged in, wondering whether this is a component that is known not working, or whether it requires configuration, etc. | 08:04:05 |
