| 9 Mar 2023 |
 John Ericson | and possibly cleaning that up | 20:35:54 |
| John Ericson | (e.g. today I think we have GNU make and then just shadow it with BSD make earlier on the path; we should instead modularize mkDerivation so no GNU make is used in either case) | 20:36:38 |
| John Ericson | Goal is that the cross and native case stay as similar as possible, so that there is less to maintain and each QAs the other | 20:37:13 |
| John Ericson | Frankly, the existing bootstrap binaries stuff is a assume I rather do the whole "immitate Guix and use GNU mes" thing first as a yak shave | 20:37:47 |
| John Ericson | I suppose they could be done together if that stuff is portable to BSD --- just don't worry about linux, and try to bootstrap the current build platform tools on freebsd ex nihilo | 20:38:36 |
| 10 Mar 2023 |
 Alyssa Ross | Ericson2314: IIRC you wanted to work with me on a new pure stdenv, and use a BSD as the excuse to do that, is what I mean. | 09:30:36 |
| Alyssa Ross | Anyone want to review https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/219356? | 10:05:03 |
| John Ericson | Alyssa Ross: still happy to help yeah | 13:21:44 |
| Alyssa Ross | like, what I want to know, I suppose, is what should all these people interested in BSD do? | 13:22:12 |
| John Ericson | I'm just forgetting exactly how high a bar I meant by "pure" | 13:22:03 |
| John Ericson | But if you are spearheading it I will help regardless | 13:22:23 |
| Alyssa Ross | Should I tell them to work with you on a new stdenv, where you can provide the design and they can provide the BSD knowledge, or should I tell them to just try to duplicate the Linux one we have. | 13:22:33 |
| John Ericson | Just I am quite overextended so hard for me to spearhead something right now | 13:22:42 |
| Alyssa Ross | I can't spearhead it. | 13:22:44 |
| John Ericson | OK | 13:23:25 |
| Alyssa Ross | Do you think you'd be able to provide enough support for an enthusiastic BSD user who is not a stdenv expert to do it? | 13:23:33 |
 qbit | time to become independently wealthy .. then i'd have the time \o/ | 13:23:38 |
| John Ericson | I think so | 13:24:10 |
| qbit | (but not the knowledge :D) | 13:24:10 |
| John Ericson | how is openbsd going btw? | 13:24:35 |
| Alyssa Ross | okay, so perhaps penguincoder should be talking to you about what to do for FreeBSD stdenv | 13:24:59 |
| John Ericson | Sounds good | 13:25:09 |
| John Ericson | I would even schedule a call to get started | 13:25:24 |
| Alyssa Ross | (assuming they are interested) | 13:25:48 |
| Alyssa Ross | if not, I think there are other freebsd people interested, but don't remember who off the top of my head | 13:26:02 |
| Alyssa Ross | but next time I see them I'll know to point them your way | 13:26:10 |
