| 12 Jul 2023 |
 Alex | In reply to @thefossguy:matrix.org
Would it be feasible to create an "installer image" for RISC-V that is similar to what one gets for x86/arm64 from nixos.org? It could be, but it wouldn't be very useful considering that building natively would require building 800+ derivations (and I think the kernel alone would need >20GiB of disk space while building). | 18:01:43 |
 Pratham Patel | No community supported caches until RISC-V support is merged in "mainline"? | 18:02:37 |
| Pratham Patel | My current archlinux image uses a binary cache from an arch maintainer. Arch is x86-only, while I belive NixOS isn't x86-only :) | 18:03:30 |
| Alex | It isn't, but NixOS only has official caches for {x86_64,aarch64}-{linux,darwin} | 18:04:19 |
| Alex | In reply to @thefossguy:matrix.org
No community supported caches until RISC-V support is merged in "mainline"? Essentially, community-supported caches are the only option.
Unless someone's already gone to the trouble of building a riscv64 cache, you're out of luck. | 18:05:10 |
 [0x4A6F] | We also need powerful builders to fill these caches... | 18:05:12 |
| Pratham Patel | ah I understand it now | 18:05:40 |
| Pratham Patel | until now, I was looking for a "third party repo" which I could depend on for having riscv binaries and just pull them | 18:06:05 |
| Alex | Yeah 80k+ packages aren't going to build overnight on a quad-core 1GHz processor | 18:06:09 |
| Pratham Patel | Are they really 80k+ different packages? | 18:06:36 |
| Pratham Patel | Imagine the hardwork in just bumping their versions lol | 18:06:51 |
| Alex | Yes. 120k if we count versions across all supported platforms.
https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined#tabs-jobs | 18:08:42 |
| [0x4A6F] | In reply to @thefossguy:matrix.org
Imagine the hardwork in just bumping their versions lol There are bots, which do the "hard" part... | 18:09:11 |
| Pratham Patel | Makes sense. :) | 18:09:33 |
| [0x4A6F] | In reply to @thefossguy:matrix.org
Imagine the hardwork in just bumping their versions lol * There are bots, which do the "hard" part... | 18:09:43 |
 Leon | Are folks invested in the Milk-V Pioneer yet? It looks to good to be true... | 18:09:47 |
| Alex | In reply to @thefossguy:matrix.org
until now, I was looking for a "third party repo" which I could depend on for having riscv binaries and just pull them There are some but you won't find much beyond the essentials or anything the cache's maintainer has bothered to build. | 18:10:01 |
| Pratham Patel | In reply to @leons:is.currently.online
Are folks invested in the Milk-V Pioneer yet? It looks to good to be true... There are two people in China who have it already | 18:10:11 |
| Alex | In reply to @alex:tunstall.xyz
There are some but you won't find much beyond the essentials or anything the cache's maintainer has bothered to build. e.g. https://github.com/misuzu/nixos-vf2/blob/450d1899dc25b61d9bbb339ff8b235cbe81f19dd/flake.nix#L3 | 18:10:37 |
| [0x4A6F] | In reply to @leons:is.currently.online
Are folks invested in the Milk-V Pioneer yet? It looks to good to be true... Not enough funds, maybe NixOS foundation could chim in. Maybe raitobezarius has some better understanding of this platform. | 18:10:44 |
| Pratham Patel | One is the aforementioned official Arch Linux maintainer who maintains a riscv "fork" (because archlinux is x86-only) and I've seen the other guy in StarFive's forums creating images with various distros for the VF1 | 18:11:13 |
| Leon | [0x4A6F]: It'd be really stretching my budget for these kinds of things. I want to see whether I can find some funding somewhere given an academic excuse, but I'm almost included to spend my own $$$ on it at this point. | 18:12:04 |
| Leon | * [0x4A6F]: It'd be really stretching my budget for these kinds of things. I want to see whether I can find some funding somewhere given an academic excuse, but I'm almost inclined to spend my own $$$ on it at this point. | 18:12:16 |
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| Alex | In reply to @leons:is.currently.online
[0x4A6F]: It'd be really stretching my budget for these kinds of things. I want to see whether I can find some funding somewhere given an academic excuse, but I'm almost inclined to spend my own $$$ on it at this point. You'd also need to convince the folks who run Hydra to let your machine join the builder pool (or wait years for intensional store). | 18:13:40 |
| [0x4A6F] | 
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| Pratham Patel | Me neither but I would prefer it over the HiFive Pro... | 18:13:43 |
| [0x4A6F] | More inclined to throw money at this beast. | 18:13:58 |
| Leon | Alex: sure, I'm not even thinking this far at that point. I'd probably hack on it by day, and have it join a community Hydra at night | 18:14:47 |
