| 7 Mar 2022 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.how | Linux Hackerman: Alyssa Ross Did you not see this days ago? | 17:52:09 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | Why is it now that you have decided to have a problem with it? I am confused by this. | 17:52:19 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | Is it only now that you have seen my activity? | 17:52:27 |
 Alyssa Ross | I didn't read the email closely at the time — I went back and read it to understand Linus's complaint, and decided I agreed with it. | 17:52:49 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | Okay, fair enough. Well sorry for the misunderstanding. I've confirmed with them what you asked me, that I'm just a member of the community and not a representative. | 17:53:24 |
 Linux Hackerman is moving: @linus:schreibt.jetzt | I raised my eyebrows at it a couple of days ago, but only today did I get any evidence that suggested that you really were exaggerating the state of affairs. | 17:53:27 |
| Alyssa Ross | (I'm in a few hundred channels so I tend to skim) | 17:53:45 |
| Linux Hackerman is moving: @linus:schreibt.jetzt | Before that I stayed silent on good faith that you were being honest | 17:53:52 |
| Linux Hackerman is moving: @linus:schreibt.jetzt | and yeah as Alyssa says I don't read every message here every day either. | 17:54:06 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | I am being honest. And the accusation that I'm not does upset me a bit. | 17:54:07 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | But thank you for your opinion nontheless. | 17:54:17 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | There are at least 10 people in this community who will benefit from being given a RISC-V VisionFive board with 8GB of RAM for development. | 17:55:15 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | I have opened up this possibility now. No boards have been sent out. | 17:55:38 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | No boards have been confirmed. | 17:55:43 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | You are definitely jumping the gun. | 17:55:54 |
| Alyssa Ross | surely it's better to catch this sort of thing early, than to wait until it's too late? | 17:56:57 |
| Alyssa Ross | at this stage, it's easy to resolve to everybody's satisfaction | 17:57:21 |
| Linux Hackerman is moving: @linus:schreibt.jetzt | So if the boards were sent out and then I complained, it would be more reasonable? | 17:57:42 |
| Alyssa Ross | if it hadn't come up until the boards had been sent out, it would be a lot more difficult to do anything about it | 17:57:48 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | No, none of what you've said so far, is in my view reasonable. | 17:58:07 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | I've sent an email to someone, they've offered us boards, you've made me feel bad for trying. | 17:58:28 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | Worse yet, I was transparent, and was worse criticised and demotivated by being transparent. | 18:00:16 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | * Worse yet, I was transparent, and was worse criticized and demotivated by being transparent. | 18:00:19 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | And that transparency wasn't valuable, because you never raised the concern sooner. | 18:00:33 |
| Alyssa Ross | Nobody has any problem with you trying to get boards | 18:01:47 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | It is not fair to derail the channel like this either, if you want to continue anything please PM me. | 18:02:02 |
| Linux Hackerman is moving: @linus:schreibt.jetzt | matthewcroughan - nix.zone: how would you feel about me sending this email to the VisionFive people along with a transcript of this chat?
Hi,
It's come to my attention that you're corresponding with Matthew Croughan about getting some VisionFive development boards into the hands of NixOS developers who would work on getting NixOS working on them. I'd love to see this initiative succeed! However, I'm somewhat concerned that Matt might have unintentionally misled you concerning the level of organisation and commitment of the initiative. For the sake of transparency, I thought I'd let you know about this. Please find attached a transcript of the discussion we had in the public "Exotic Nix Targets" Matrix channel (#exotic:nixos.org) concerning the matter, I'll leave forming an opinion on the matter up to you.
Hoping we'll still get those boards!
Linus
| 18:05:32 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | Thanks for the bullying and takeover. | 18:06:36 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | I hope you feel good about it. | 18:06:43 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | Hope you get the boards, I'll be signing off now. | 18:06:50 |
