| 16 Jan 2024 |
 raitobezarius | don't hesitate to poke me later if you need stuff | 03:55:36 |
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| 17 Jan 2024 |
 @samueldr:matrix.org | I've been thinking about B-right/V and how to help it out a bit produce working things... so one of the main "issues" is that it is not a unix, so many assumptions fail in programs...
... but it does have a unixemu runtime / alternative set of libraries implementing a lot of unixness.
so the main problem(s) I'm seeing here is as follows:
- I need the produced gcc to work either with the default libg (their libc) or with unixemu
- the produced gcc needs to links to something to work... but I guess it's fine if it links to
unixemu stuff? (see follow-ups)
- using the
specs files to fix default linking might not be the proper solution here
that is because I would like to, somehow, have:
- The default
stdenv assume linking with unixemu things (just a few CFLAGS/LDFLAGS
- A
brightv.sdkStdenv that turns of that knob and adds the "non-unixemu" flags
so I guess I need to find a way to get the cross gcc built without patching in the "brightv-flavoured" environment, and without somehow tainting the stdenvwtih whatever workarounds that implies using | 21:17:41 |
| @samueldr:matrix.org | * I've been thinking about B-right/V and how to help it out a bit produce working things... so one of the main "issues" is that it is not a unix, so many assumptions fail in programs...
... but it does have a unixemu runtime / alternative set of libraries implementing a lot of unixness.
so the main problem(s) I'm seeing here is as follows:
- I need the produced gcc to work either with the default libg (their libc) or with unixemu
- the produced gcc needs to links to something to work... but I guess it's fine if it links to
unixemu stuff? (see follow-ups)
- using the
specs files to fix default linking might not be the proper solution here
that is because I would like to, somehow, have:
- The default
stdenv assume linking with unixemu things (just a few CFLAGS/LDFLAGS
- A
brightv.sdkStdenv that turns of that knob and adds the "non-unixemu" flags
so I guess I need to find a way to get the cross gcc built without patching in the "brightv-flavoured" environment, and without somehow tainting the stdenv with whatever workarounds that implies using | 21:17:52 |
| @samueldr:matrix.org | is there anything in there that sounds incorrect? | 21:18:25 |
| @samueldr:matrix.org | * I've been thinking about B-right/V and how to help it out a bit produce working things... so one of the main "issues" is that it is not a unix, so many assumptions fail in programs...
... but it does have a unixemu runtime / alternative set of libraries implementing a lot of unixness.
so the main problem(s) I'm seeing here is as follows:
- I need the produced gcc to work either with the default libg (their libc) or with unixemu
- the produced gcc needs to links to something to work... but I guess it's fine if it links to
unixemu stuff? (see follow-ups)
- using the
specs files to fix default linking might not be the proper solution here
that is because I would like to, somehow, have:
- The default
stdenv assume linking with unixemu things (just a few CFLAGS/LDFLAGS
- A
brightv.sdkStdenv that turns off that knob and adds the "non-unixemu" flags
so I guess I need to find a way to get the cross gcc built without patching in the "brightv-flavoured" environment, and without somehow tainting the stdenv with whatever workarounds that implies using | 21:20:26 |
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| 2 Feb 2024 |
 p14 | is gettext meant to have bash in its buildInputs? (Should it not be a nativeBuildInput?) Under pkgsStatic, it gets propagated. So if you do something like nix build --dry-run nixpkgs#pkgsStatic.gettext, it fetches bash-dev, because under cross, the buildInput becomes a propagatedBuildInput for some reason. I noticed because I was puzzled that bash ended up as a dependency. | 19:38:40 |
 Alyssa Ross | Yes, because it installs bash scripts that need to have their shebang patched. | 19:45:32 |
| Alyssa Ross | IIRC | 19:46:16 |
| p14 | Nothing crossOverlays = [(self: super: { gettext = super.gettext.override { bash = super.buildPackages.bash; }; })]; can't fix I suppose... 🤫 | 19:50:51 |
| 3 Feb 2024 |
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| 6 Feb 2024 |
 rhelmot | Not particularly exotic but - somehow while messing with nixpkgs for FreeBSD I broke llvm tests on Linux. The failing test case seems to complain about the dot executable not being in the path? I can’t find any evidence of this having ever been a dependency or a disabled test, so what could have gone wrong? | 02:40:11 |
| rhelmot | The change that broke it had nothing to do with llvm - I changed a var that should be a no-op on Linux for bison | 02:41:42 |
| rhelmot | Note that this is the nix installed from Ubuntu apt, which doesn’t use the sandbox | 02:42:08 |
| 8 Feb 2024 |
| raitobezarius | I'd ask if you can reproduce this with sandbox first | 18:53:37 |
| raitobezarius | We don't really support sandboxless usecases | 18:53:41 |
| rhelmot | I did in fact try with the sandbox and it worked perfectly | 19:00:33 |
| rhelmot | Debian considered harmful I guess | 19:00:48 |
 trofi | I'd say it's a nix's defaults bug that it allows for an unsandboxed runs so easily. | 22:59:25 |
