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1 Jan 2024
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathe terminology is not great, but it will deny force pushing, if your knowledge about the remote is outdated16:52:01
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatI know it, but it's so hard to type.16:52:16
@hexa:lossy.networkhexashould really be the default16:52:20
@stigo:matrix.orgstigo --force-with-cat-ears would be better imho 😹 16:52:30
@hexa:lossy.networkhexayou were at congress, weren't you? 😛16:52:47
@stigo:matrix.orgstigoyep :)16:52:54
6 Jan 2024
@andy.99:matrix.organdy joined the room.08:49:56
@andy.99:matrix.organdy

hi i am on debian 12,
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").

nix shell nixpkgs#cloc

 $ cloc --vcs git
/nix/store/q8qq40xg2grfh9ry1d9x4g7lq4ra7n81-bash-5.2-p21/bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
	LANGUAGE = (unset),
	LC_ALL = "en_US.UTF-8",
	LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
      18 text files.
      10 unique files.
       8 files ignored.
08:51:38
@andy.99:matrix.organdy *

hi i am on debian 12,
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").

nix shell nixpkgs#cloc

 $ cloc --vcs git
/nix/store/q8qq40xg2grfh9ry1d9x4g7lq4ra7n81-bash-5.2-p21/bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
	LANGUAGE = (unset),
	LC_ALL = "en_US.UTF-8",
	LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
08:51:51
@andy.99:matrix.organdyis there a way to fix this on non-nixos system having nix package manager08:52:15
@andy.99:matrix.organdymy locale is set to en_US.UTF-808:52:48
@stigo:matrix.orgstigo What perl do you have in $PATH? I've not used nix on non-NixOS that much, but this seems like some impurity 14:13:14
@stigo:matrix.orgstigo I.e. that it's getting perl from the system or something similar 14:13:25
7 Jan 2024
@andy.99:matrix.organdyperhaps07:04:54
@andy.99:matrix.organdy 
perl --version

This is perl 5, version 36, subversion 0 (v5.36.0) built for x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi
(with 53 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail)

Copyright 1987-2022, Larry Wall

Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the
GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit.

Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on
this system using "man perl" or "perldoc perl".  If you have access to the
Internet, point your browser at https://www.perl.org/, the Perl Home Page.
07:05:10
@andy.99:matrix.organdydoes look like its using system perl07:05:18
@andy.99:matrix.organdy 
which perl
/bin/perl
07:06:21
@andy.99:matrix.organdyi ran these commands inside the nix shell07:06:32
@andy.99:matrix.organdy

the problem does not resolve even if i use

nix shell nixpkgs#cloc nixpkgs#perl
07:08:07
@andy.99:matrix.organdythere is some i18n translation setting that can be tweaked on nixos using the config file not sure if its equivalent is present on non-nixos07:16:17
19 Jan 2024
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de stigo: are you aware of any changes in perl: 5.38.0 -> 5.38.2 that would cause hydra API request auth to fail? 09:42:46
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deNvm, it was a classic layer 8 problem :/10:05:38
21 Jan 2024
@andy.99:matrix.organdy
In reply to @andy.99:matrix.org
there is some i18n translation setting that can be tweaked on nixos using the config file
not sure if its equivalent is present on non-nixos
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/187402/nix-package-manager-perl-warning-setting-locale-failed 		10:46:17
@andy.99:matrix.organdygot the answer here10:46:25
25 Jan 2024
@stigo:matrix.orgstigoin general, can someone help shepherding perlPackage updates trough staging on a semi-regular basis? I'm worried that we'll get a large backlog of changes again :-) Got https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/268374 but this is outdated now, and should be updated.10:51:34
@stigo:matrix.orgstigo * in general, can someone help shepherding perlPackage updates trough staging on a semi-regular basis? I'm worried that we'll get a large backlog of changes again :-) Got https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/268374 but this is outdated now, and should be updated. /me carefully pings @zakame and Janne Heß 10:52:22
@stigo:matrix.orgstigoThis would almost always be a PR with to staging causing a mass rebuild, so no good candidate for self merges :D10:53:46
@stigo:matrix.orgstigo * This would almost always be a PR to staging causing a mass rebuild, so no good candidate for self merges :D10:53:55
26 Jan 2024
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
In reply to @stigo:matrix.org
in general, can someone help shepherding perlPackage updates trough staging on a semi-regular basis? I'm worried that we'll get a large backlog of changes again :-) Got https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/268374 but this is outdated now, and should be updated. /me carefully pings @zakame and Janne Heß
I can try. On that note: is PRing the bulk to staging even that clever? If we checked automatically daily, we could probably get to 1 PR per package and avoid staging for most of them 		08:50:46
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