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26 May 2024
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
Whether the wiki links to only official places doesn't determine whether it's official itself. And there's already a ton of unofficial links on the wiki
if you think there is a good wiki page to link to I will add that in my PR. I think allowing folks easy access to add more links also helps accomplish what @garbas seemingly wanted in terms of allowing folks to find wherever whoever is talking about nix easily
16:42:29
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418I was gonna add a "PR to add more unofficial channels" but the wiki is probably lower barrier to entry and would get more use16:43:12
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418 * I was gonna add a "PR to add more unofficial channels" link but the wiki is probably lower barrier to entry and would get more use16:43:22
@paperdigits:matrix.orgmica
In reply to @nat418:matrix.org
I don't know how to do that without actually having an account, joining, etc. At the end of the day, I don't see why Nix needs to promote the Reddit data-harvesting / ad product.
Reddit's business model is not relevant to this issue.
16:51:47
@paperdigits:matrix.orgmicaAs someone who has revived better help from unofficial places than official places, I understand linking reddit and discord. I don't know if I think either of those platforms are good for me, but getting help is getting help.16:55:00
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418
In reply to @paperdigits:matrix.org
Reddit's business model is not relevant to this issue.
I don't know in what world people are aware Nix exists but not Reddit or X. I just don't see why we need to promote these social media platforms that are already huge and well-known.
17:16:55
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418Like why not link to a Google search with the word "nixos" in it?17:17:15
@paperdigits:matrix.orgmicaI think that has already been answered in the above discourse.17:20:05
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418Can you link me where? I don't see it.17:20:32
@paperdigits:matrix.orgmicaRedacted or Malformed Event17:23:03
@paperdigits:matrix.orgmicaAw dang, thats the text not a link17:23:23
@paperdigits:matrix.orgmica https://matrix.to/#/!tPxtoBdChSsxHuBlNW:nixos.org/$sUQPjEvdKA4YT7tt94JMgOLMH1BAMOsXhUr91123SU8?via=matrix.org&via=nixos.dev&via=defenestrate.it 17:24:07
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacu

This is not a representation of what we are trying to do. We do not:

  • promote reddit data-harvesting / ad product
  • promote hateful comments / users

What we strive to do is:

  • grow the Nix user base
  • advertise the awesome aspects of the nix project
  • provide avenues for people to find what they need (including help even if it is in an "unofficial" space)

There are 25k users on reddit and 2.2k on discord. People find their happy nix home there. The website exists to aggregate resources about nix that users might find useful. That's why we link.

17:29:49
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaare these numbers even comparable? not sure why they're getting thrown around over and over again17:33:32
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacu
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
are these numbers even comparable? not sure why they're getting thrown around over and over again
Comparable to what exactly?
17:36:23
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusIt's not because you click a button to join a subreddit there's 25k people actively posting over there.17:36:48
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusSame for 2.2k users on Discord, to be fair.17:36:54
@paperdigits:matrix.orgmicaSame for all spaces. There aren't 1600 people in the matrix room that are active.17:38:29
@paperdigits:matrix.orgmicaThis doesn't seem to be going anywhere good. Maybe we should take a break and enjoy what is left of Sunday.17:39:54
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekA decision has been made and is being implemented. Continuing this discussion here is not productive. The marketing team is aware of the topic. If there are further concerns, please move this to Meta/Moderation (or Meta/Marketing) on Discourse as the appropriate venue where we can apply slow mode and have more thoughtful statements.17:42:44
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
In reply to @djacu:matrix.org
Comparable to what exactly?
between each other … something like MAU would be comparable, total user count not so much
20:04:06
@paperdigits:matrix.orgmicaTBH the best thing the project could do is have a very obvious pipeline into the ecosystem. I don't think the current spaces satisfy the help needed by new people.20:25:10
27 May 2024
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@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418
In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
A decision has been made and is being implemented. Continuing this discussion here is not productive. The marketing team is aware of the topic. If there are further concerns, please move this to Meta/Moderation (or Meta/Marketing) on Discourse as the appropriate venue where we can apply slow mode and have more thoughtful statements.

So to be honest I don't really understand if this means I am not allowed to post in here or not about this topic, so I will just point people to my open PR and say if they like @infinisil:matrix.org's suggestion to use the wiki to add more unofficial links I implemented that solution here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1441

if that isn't want whoever has the "decision has been made" power wants, just tell me and I can rewrite the page differently

10:51:30
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418
In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
A decision has been made and is being implemented. Continuing this discussion here is not productive. The marketing team is aware of the topic. If there are further concerns, please move this to Meta/Moderation (or Meta/Marketing) on Discourse as the appropriate venue where we can apply slow mode and have more thoughtful statements.
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So to be honest I don't really understand if this means I am not allowed to post in here or just not about this topic or whatever, so I will just point people to my open PR and say if they like @infinisil:matrix.org's suggestion to use the wiki to add more unofficial links I implemented that solution here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1441

if that isn't want whoever has the "decision has been made" power wants, just tell me and I can rewrite the page differently

10:51:49
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418
In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
A decision has been made and is being implemented. Continuing this discussion here is not productive. The marketing team is aware of the topic. If there are further concerns, please move this to Meta/Moderation (or Meta/Marketing) on Discourse as the appropriate venue where we can apply slow mode and have more thoughtful statements.
*

So to be honest I don't really understand if this means I am not allowed to post in here or just not about this topic or whatever, so please permit me to point people to my open PR and say if they like @infinisil:matrix.org's suggestion to use the wiki to add more unofficial links I implemented that solution here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1441

if that isn't want whoever has the "decision has been made" power wants, just tell me and I can rewrite the page differently

10:52:04
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418
In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
A decision has been made and is being implemented. Continuing this discussion here is not productive. The marketing team is aware of the topic. If there are further concerns, please move this to Meta/Moderation (or Meta/Marketing) on Discourse as the appropriate venue where we can apply slow mode and have more thoughtful statements.
*

So to be honest I don't really understand if this means I am not allowed to post in here or just not about this topic or whatever, so please permit me to point people to my open PR and say that if they like @infinisil:matrix.org's suggestion to use the wiki to add more unofficial links, I implemented that solution here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1441

if that isn't what whoever has the "decision has been made" power wants, just tell me and I can rewrite the page differently

10:52:37
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418
In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
A decision has been made and is being implemented. Continuing this discussion here is not productive. The marketing team is aware of the topic. If there are further concerns, please move this to Meta/Moderation (or Meta/Marketing) on Discourse as the appropriate venue where we can apply slow mode and have more thoughtful statements.
*

So to be honest I don't really understand if this means I am not allowed to post in here or just not about this topic or whatever, so please permit me to point people to my open PR and say that if they like @infinisil:matrix.org's suggestion to use the wiki to add more unofficial links, I implemented that solution here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1441

if that isn't what whoever has the "decision has been made" power wants, just tell me and I can rewrite the page differently

for example, I could try and pull all the unofficial links from the wiki page to the nicos.org community page with visiually different styling from the official links. open to ideas here

10:53:39
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418
In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
A decision has been made and is being implemented. Continuing this discussion here is not productive. The marketing team is aware of the topic. If there are further concerns, please move this to Meta/Moderation (or Meta/Marketing) on Discourse as the appropriate venue where we can apply slow mode and have more thoughtful statements.
*

So to be honest I don't really understand if this means I am not allowed to post in here or just not about this topic or whatever, so please permit me to point people to my open PR and say that if they like @infinisil:matrix.org's suggestion to use the wiki to add more unofficial links, I implemented that solution here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1441

if that isn't what whoever has the "decision has been made" power wants, just tell me and I can rewrite the page differently

for example, I could try and pull all the unofficial links from the wiki page to the nixos.org community page with visiually different styling from the official links. open to ideas here

10:53:53
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomI saw the notification, though I did not have time for a review yet. Please remember we are doing this in our spare time and are unfortunately a quite small team11:12:53

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