| 23 Jul 2021 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Nix is a slightly better way to do systems at first, and a much better way later. But because the reward is not immediate, it is hard to sell. | 03:51:09 |
 David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
Nix is a slightly better way to do systems at first, and a much better way later. But because the reward is not immediate, it is hard to sell. My wife wouldn't even care. | 03:51:32 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * My wife wouldn't even care. But you are right. | 03:51:43 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Just using Linux at all gives you a whole host of benefits. To be told that NixOS is even better doesn't even make sense to most people. | 03:51:52 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | It is incredibly hard to comprehend how something can be better than any other Linux distro, because LInux itself is already so good. | 03:52:07 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | It takes a lot of understanding. | 03:52:15 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | This is why I think it makes the most sense to market towards those people who have this understanding rather than those who don't. | 03:52:39 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | But often time, things "don't work TM". Under stress and load, with deadlines, you probably prefer windoes? | 03:52:49 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * But often time, things "don't work TM". Under stress and load, with deadlines, you probably prefer Windows? | 03:53:10 |
 davidak | In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
My wife wouldn't even care. But you are right. and that's the point. and she is right | 03:53:17 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Well, even people who are using Linux, developing for Linux, etc, are using MacOS as their work machine. | 03:53:17 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
This is why I think it makes the most sense to market towards those people who have this understanding rather than those who don't. This is a good point, maybe we can't cater Fulanita Perez. | 03:53:42 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * This is a good point, maybe we can't cater Fulanita Perez (nice of Jon Doe). | 03:53:58 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | NixOS is going to handle itself on the user side, IMO. The community is growing, it has a cult following, it's going to get bigger. I don't think it's a big worry. | 03:54:02 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | The bigger worry is how we get serious in business. | 03:54:09 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Getting companies to respect Nix as a tool. | 03:54:28 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Wuality! | 03:54:31 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Quality! | 03:54:36 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Quality! Standardization! Governance! | 03:54:55 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Then it will become what we hate :P
| 03:55:05 |
| davidak | i think we have an amazing technical foundation for a stable and flexible system, but we have to invent a way how people can use this power. and i think we have no one in the community that would be capable to do this, because it currently attracts people with the opposite mindset | 03:55:08 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | I have both midnsets | 03:55:37 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | ... and the corporate, too. | 03:55:48 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * I have both mindsets | 03:55:54 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | But you describe an important structural bias. | 03:57:03 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Still, I think we should look for adjacent user personas, with higher prio. | 03:58:40 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | It's just cheaper to get there and reach out | 03:58:55 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | (and probably also more effective) | 03:59:07 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | (and augments our nimbus) | 03:59:14 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I think that the "normal person" user base is growing and expanding, an doing very well. | 03:59:29 |
