| 25 Aug 2021 |
 samueldr | * the largest subset of mergeable open PRs on top of staging | 22:21:15 |
 ryantm | https://discourse.nixos.org/t/trying-distro-without-installing/14694/6?u=ryantm | 23:58:47 |
| ryantm | Why do we recommend the Gnome ISO? | 23:59:04 |
| samueldr | because there's a browser in a graphical environment | 23:59:41 |
| 26 Aug 2021 |
| samueldr | it's not the GNOME ISO that is recommended, but a graphical ISO really | 00:00:07 |
 andi- | What else is expected? A graphical tour through NixOS? | 00:00:20 |
| samueldr | please | 00:00:35 |
| samueldr | nah, but not every users has multiple machines around... | 00:01:04 |
| samueldr | ... though I forgot that smartphones are a thing now | 00:01:10 |
| ryantm | Maybe just a manual link and terminal link in the dock? | 00:01:36 |
| samueldr | when I first installed Linux I only had one computer, no fancy shmancy alternatives to access the internet | 00:01:39 |
| andi- | I don't know what the user did expect. The thread is titled "trying out" | 00:01:43 |
| ryantm | It used to have desktop icons linking to these before gnome killed desktop icons. | 00:02:41 |
| samueldr |
whenever i select it as my boot drive it takes me directly to an install screen.
| 00:03:29 |
| andi- | ok, I noticed on the Fedora34 installer that I wasn't getting the Gnome tour but instead an installer popup or something like that. | 00:03:31 |
| samueldr | I'm confused | 00:03:43 |
 davidak | other distros have a graphical installer... and you can choose between installing or trying out the live environment. on nixos you are just lost | 01:08:34 |
| davidak | https://chaos.social/@davidak/106824627029097162 | 22:19:48 |
| 28 Aug 2021 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I've produced the following video, which might be helpful for some. https://youtu.be/OV2hi8b5t48 | 01:43:12 |
 tomberek | Very cool. I never knew you could chain the pkgsCross with pkgsStatic that way. | 02:03:33 |
| samueldr | note: the order matters; it won't produce the same output | 02:06:05 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | In reply to @samueldr:matrix.org
note: the order matters; it won't produce the same output Does that mean that there is not idempotence where there should be idempotence? Or is this correct behavior? Could it be fixed, or is it desirable for there to be different results based on the ordering? | 02:08:51 |
| samueldr | I don't recall | 02:09:05 |
| samueldr | I believe static -> cross makes the toolchain static, which doesn't work, or something like that, while cross -> static works | 02:09:38 |
| tomberek | how about something like: pkgsStatic.<some Go Pacakge>. I'd guess that would try to set CGO_ENABLED=0 and some ldflags. Instead it seems to build Go and starts using musl and fails. | 02:10:58 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | pkgsStatic contains an attrset which happens to also contain pkgsCross, and vice-versa.. It's an interesting problem. | 02:11:01 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | It's not a problem, because it's exactly as you'd expect, and has nothing to do with idempotence like I thought then. | 02:11:25 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | If there is terminology for the problem of ordering, I don't know what it'd be called, because it does make sense as to what's happening. The sets contain eachother. | 02:12:01 |
| samueldr | just a note about the behaviour, not a bug | 02:12:50 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Well you could make the case that pkgsCross shouldn't be in pkgsStatic's set and should be filtered out if we know it doesn't make sense :D | 02:13:20 |
