| 23 Jul 2021 |
 David Arnold (blaggacao) | (as far as I can underatand it) | 04:22:57 |
 davidak | it's aleady morning... 6 am | 04:23:04 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | I'll try to convince my wife of using nixos, let's see how that goes 😂 | 04:23:40 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | (as a practical exercise) | 04:23:51 |
| davidak | maybe wait some years or she might be annoyed at your tech stuff | 04:24:32 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | But she definitly likes pastel paper white screens with light gray text and engaging content. | 04:24:32 |
| davidak | maybe create a mockup of that idea | 04:25:15 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Maybe if we think of mass adoption, with Steve Jobs, we also have to think about the detailed branding ? | 04:25:31 |
| davidak | i really have to sleep | 04:25:34 |
| davidak | see you | 04:25:38 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | 👋 | 04:25:46 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Thank you for the conversation! | 04:25:56 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Ps: what I like about the pastel paper color light gray interactive option tree: by make the allusion of writing on a sheet of paper, it maintains a strong spiritual commection with the declarative model of NixOS. | 04:46:38 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Ps: what I like about the pastel paper color light gray interactive option tree: by making the allusion of writing on a sheet of paper, it maintains a strong spiritual commection with the declarative model of NixOS. | 04:46:56 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Ps: what I like about the pastel paper color light gray interactive option tree: by making the allusion of writing on a sheet of paper, it maintains a strong "spiritual" connection with the declarative model of NixOS. | 04:47:11 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Ps: what I like about the pastel paper color light gray interactive option tree "gui": by making the allusion of writing on a sheet of paper, it maintains a strong "spiritual" connection with the declarative model of NixOS. | 04:47:32 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Ps: what I like about the pastel paper color light gray interactive (sensivle subset of) option tree "gui": by making the allusion of writing on a sheet of paper, it maintains a strong "spiritual" connection with the declarative model of NixOS. | 04:48:01 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Ps: what I like about the pastel paper color light gray interactive (sensible subset of) option tree "gui": by making the allusion of writing on a sheet of paper, it maintains a strong "spiritual" connection with the declarative model of NixOS. | 04:48:21 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | ... and paper has an important feature: it's only 21 cm broad. | 04:50:11 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * ... and paper has an important feature: it's only 21 cm broad. (Limiting complexity) | 04:50:23 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * ... and paper has an important feature: it's only 21 cm broad. (limiting complexity) | 04:50:32 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * ... and paper has an important feature: it's only 21 cm broad. (And thereby self-limiting complexity) | 04:50:47 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * ... and paper has an important feature: it's only 21 cm broad. (And thereby self-limiting nesting & complexity) | 04:51:29 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * ... and paper has an important feature: it's only 21 cm broad. (And thereby somewhat self-limiting nesting & complexity) | 04:51:45 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * ... and paper has an important feature: it's only 21 cm broad. (And thereby somewhat self-limiting possible nesting & complexity) | 04:53:27 |
 kunrooted | Hi, I've seen that someone on Discord came up with the idea, but I'm curious whether we can make it official. Wdyt about Nix certifications? Nix already is a next-gen devops cool and getting certifications in it would be really outstanding on the resume. (Came here, to the Marketing channel, because a friend of mine told me this can be the best place to discuss it, sorry if he was wrong) | 11:13:38 |
| kunrooted | I can even risk saying, that this can make not only resume outstanding in some ways, but also Nix will look way better if we, as some other tools/languages, adopt certifications of some kind
also the Nix itself, at least in my opinion, will be treated probably with more professional approach, don't get me wrong, but I still hear people talking like "Nix is still some kind of experiment, don't use it", I think that making certifications from Nix can change the view on that
as ridiculous as it may sound, I know quite a few people of those kind, sadly
but I really hope that we, at least one day, sooner or later, can consider such a thing, at least one or two certs | 11:22:47 |
 Gytis Ivaskevicius | Well Nix is not exactly what one would call a mature platform, but I'd be in favor of some sort of certification, I think it is a good way to go around it.
I guess the main issue is getting some company to take ownership of the whole certification process. Tweag is an obvious candidate | 11:27:20 |
 tomberek | I’m not convinced that certification is the easiest way to solve the adoption problem. In fact, certification seems to be better when there is so much adoption that distinguishing between levels of expertise provides value to a company/resume/signaling. Ie, is there a problem out there of hiring managers being unable to determine if a candidate has enough Nix experience for a position?
When I do hiring, I’ve learned to distrust certifications and see them as having very low signal value. Though I understand that it provides an easy hiring filter.
Then again, if the benefits of owning the certification process is deemed valuable enough, it would also bring more resources in to solve the adoption problem itself. | 17:54:47 |
| 24 Jul 2021 |
| kunrooted | Over here, I see more and more people looking forward to either get at least one certification or recruiters that want to see at least one certification. I've even seen people who didn't get hired, no matter what Uni education they had, just because they didn't have OSCP or any other entry-level cybersec certification. But maybe that's just our local thing (Eastern Europe/Russia). Or maybe that's just what I've seen, doesn't mean it's the majority of our Job market.
Anyway, I hope that this topic can be further discussed. I just believe that this would be the great opportunity, not only for Nix users wanting to get certified and rising their qualifications, but also for the Nix itself. Keeping my fingers crossed for this, I really hope to see such things one day. | 14:15:27 |
