| 27 Mar 2023 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I'm not going to discuss it any more in public in case it upsets. So feel free to PM me about it. | 14:25:17 |
 raitobezarius | Yes, we can agree to disagree, I just think that the meme-driven engagement by those types of joke are hurting people and it's not always fun for me to apologize in conferences to people who were hurt in the process. (I'm not even talking about the Foxboron case) | 14:25:39 |
 Bryan Honof | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
I like it. I think it's good marketing. I'm sorry if you don't like it, or think otherwise. We can have a difference of opinion here. I guess it depends on who you're talking too. Some people will tolerate it, others don't. I guess it's just a balancing act of noticing when to apply one or the other. | 14:25:48 |
| Bryan Honof | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
I like it. I think it's good marketing. I'm sorry if you don't like it, or think otherwise. We can have a difference of opinion here. * I guess it depends on who you're talking to. Some people will tolerate it, others don't. I guess it's just a balancing act of noticing when to apply one or the other. | 14:26:04 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
I'm not going to discuss it any more in public in case it upsets. So feel free to PM me about it. It does not upset me, I am just bringing this situation which I think, is a topic to discuss respectfully. | 14:26:54 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Sega does what Nintendon't | 14:27:11 |
| Bryan Honof | The point of view I'm talking from b.t.w. is the "official" NixOS channels. We really shouldn't be doing the meme-driven PR, but still try to be interactive with the community. So, whatever people do on their personal profiles, I honestly don't care. Since we can't control this anyhow. I like some good shit talking myself, especially in games or a playful environment. But that quickly changes when I'm put into a more professional environment. | 14:28:34 |
| Bryan Honof | I'll bring this up in the next marketing meeting if you want me to. | 14:29:02 |
| Bryan Honof | But I don't believe there's a right or wrong here on a personal level. | 14:29:16 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Well, for me, Nix and Linux is definitely still a thing that I love and enjoy. I'd hate for that to change. | 14:29:20 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | And limits on what I can and cannot say would hurt my enjoyment :D | 14:30:14 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Nix is not just a work thing, for me. | 14:31:33 |
| Bryan Honof | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
And limits on what I can and cannot say would hurt my enjoyment :D Oh, I definitely don't want to do that! Again, I'm looking at this from the marketing team's PoV. So, I'd rather avoid starting beef with communities trough the Nix communities voice so to say. | 14:32:42 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Its lobste.rs man, look at the arguments on Hacker News. | 14:34:26 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | lobste.rs is definitely a debate battleground. It's encouraged. I didn't see anything too nasty in the thread. | 14:35:01 |
| Bryan Honof | I'm just more interested in establishing relationships with other communities, and I doubt shit posting about their projects is the way. With friends however, I do shit talk about their distro's, and they also do about mine. But the social context there is different.
Your social platforms are also exactly that, yours. I wouldn't want anything else on there but your opinion and voice. | 14:35:06 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | You may disagree what is being said in threads, but debate on lobste.rs and hacker news are common. | 14:35:29 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I didn't see anything too personal. | 14:35:43 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I'm not even defending what's being said, I just don't see the point in trying to regulate speech on a platform like lobste.rs which is totally designed for discussion like this. | 14:36:16 |
| Bryan Honof | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
lobste.rs is definitely a debate battleground. It's encouraged. I didn't see anything too nasty in the thread. I'm no longer talking about lobste.rs. But more about the general way we as the community present ourselves to the outside world. So, really from the marketing teams PoV. I also took no offense in the lobste.rs thing. | 14:36:13 |
| Bryan Honof | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
I'm not even defending what's being said, I just don't see the point in trying to regulate speech on a platform like lobste.rs which is totally designed for discussion like this. We don't want to? Or am I misinterpreting something? | 14:37:04 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Maybe, I'm not sure any more. I don't think it's too productive to continue anyway, no harm has been done IMO. I'll leave it here. | 14:37:52 |
| Bryan Honof | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
Maybe, I'm not sure any more. I don't think it's too productive to continue anyway, no harm has been done IMO. I'll leave it here. Sure, just know that I'm not offended by anything. Would still love to drinks beers with you if you're ever visiting Belgium again. 😉 | 14:39:25 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Looking to start a NUG in London right now, just need to find the location. | 14:41:21 |
| Bryan Honof | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
Maybe, I'm not sure any more. I don't think it's too productive to continue anyway, no harm has been done IMO. I'll leave it here. * Sure, just know that I'm not offended by anything. Would still love to drink beers with you if you're ever visiting Belgium again. 😉 | 14:41:22 |
| Bryan Honof | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
Looking to start a NUG in London right now, just need to find the location. There's one in Liverpool already, right? Perhaps someone in that circle has some ideas. | 14:44:33 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Oh the people who come to that are all new, I convert them all. | 14:45:16 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | 4 so far, but they're really just new people who have only just arrived. | 14:45:32 |
| Bryan Honof | Hmm, maybe it's still worth asking. You never know what their network looks like. Maybe their friends with someone that just so happens to have a place in London. 😁 | 14:46:45 |
| Bryan Honof | * Hmm, maybe it's still worth asking. You never know what their network looks like. Maybe they are friends with someone that just so happens to have a place in London. 😁 | 14:47:03 |
