 | NixOS Marketing | 266 Members |
| NixOS website + marketing team: https://nixos.org/community/teams/marketing.html | 57 Servers |
| NixOS Marketing | 266 Members |
| NixOS website + marketing team: https://nixos.org/community/teams/marketing.html | 57 Servers |
| Sender | Message | Time |
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| 26 Mar 2023 | ||
 raitobezarius | (and of course, 'yet proper documentation' is not to say that doc team is not doing an amazing work, hats to them, this is one of the hardest things in such a project.) | 15:29:25 |
| raitobezarius | Obviously, I also committed the sin of excessive shilling at some period in my life, I feel like we ought to show to the external world and internal world that we acknowledge that our project can exhibit these things and we do want to make it better for everyone, including people who does not want to have anything to do with Nix, etc, etc. | 15:30:39 |
 tea | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.orgonce I got thrown that "nix people are like the Jehovah's witnesses of Linux" and now I kinda understand why. | 15:32:50 |
| 27 Mar 2023 | ||
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.orgI'm not sure if you realise, but there is a massive NixOS community on lobste.rs | 07:14:42 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org* I'm not sure if you realise, but there is a massive Nix community on lobste.rs | 07:14:50 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | So it's not surprising to me, that Nix would be shilled, or appear a lot, even in comment sections on lobste.rs, considering the amount of people on lobste.rs that use Nix. | 07:15:32 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | If you just go through the post history and look for all the Nix threads, you will be surprised just how present it is | 07:16:09 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | And unlike Hacker News for example, Nix is very welcome, and people there seem to like it rather than dislike it. | 07:16:48 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * And unlike Hacker News for example, Nix is very welcome, and people on lobste.rs seem to like it rather than dislike it. | 07:16:57 |
 @gdesforges:matrix.org | I guess raitobezarius is not pointing fingers at anybody. As far as I understand the point is that the Nix Marketing team communication should strive for a communication that does not bring down or belittle, but rather support and congratulate | 07:32:56 |
| @gdesforges:matrix.org | * I guess raitobezarius is not pointing fingers at anybody. As far as I understand the point is that the Nix Marketing team should strive for a communication that does not bring down or belittle, but rather support and congratulate | 07:33:13 |
| @gdesforges:matrix.org | Makes me think: do we have a reference that lists all official accounts? | 07:34:17 |
| @gdesforges:matrix.org | Side question: should we have one on lobste.rs to promote Nix releases etc | 07:34:46 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I think lobste.rs would massively frown upon any sort of official announcements or consistent postings from any organization, it's for hackers, not business/companies/organizations | 07:35:36 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * I think lobste.rs would massively frown upon any sort of official announcements or consistent postings from any organization, it's for hackers and organic content, not business/companies/organizations | 07:35:44 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | If Canonical or Red Hat started posting there, I can almost guarantee they'd be moderated out, for example. It's really for individuals. | 07:36:29 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | They also frown upon consistent self-promotion, so if you post your own blog posts consistently, they moderate that out too. | 07:37:14 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Think Wikipedia. You can't write an article about yourself on Wikipedia, it's not exactly the same on lobste.rs, but they do prefer if other people post your content, rather than yourself. | 07:37:44 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I believe the lobste.rs software is open source by the way, we could run our own instane | 07:38:45 |
| @gdesforges:matrix.org | Good thanks 👍 I don't know about lobste.rs so that's why I'm asking | 07:38:27 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * I believe the lobste.rs software is open source by the way, we could run our own instance | 07:38:47 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I'd like to call it "echo chamber" | 07:38:53 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | In reply to @gdesforges:matrix.orgIt's the cool version of Hacker News that isn't completely taken over by techbros, etc | 07:54:15 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itYes, yes, that's why there is a nix tag (i.e. for people who want to filter out nix content) -- my point was really more about how not to hurt the feelings of the others | 10:43:55 |
| @gdesforges:matrix.org | ... which is hard and never perfect of course 😄 | 11:42:00 |
 Bryan Honof | I tend to agree with raitobezarius that the Nix community has the tendency to be pretty "in your face"—if I may use the term people tend to describe my music with—. This definitely isn't something that bothers everyone, but for people that are looking form the outside, it looks hostile at times. I had a talk at FOSDEM with some people from the Arch community, and they brought up some pretty good topics.
| 12:48:54 |
| Bryan Honof | * I tend to agree with raitobezarius that the Nix community has the tendency to be pretty "in your face"—if I may use the term people tend to describe my music with—. This definitely isn't something that bothers everyone, but for people that are looking form the outside, it looks hostile at times. I had a talk at FOSDEM with some people from the Arch community, and they brought up some pretty good topics.
I don't know a solution to this, but I think it's safe to assume we should provide a welcoming place for people looking at the Nix community for the first time. And honestly, I think the Discourse forum already is that place. | 12:50:13 |
| Bryan Honof | * I tend to agree with raitobezarius that the Nix community has the tendency to be pretty "in your face"—if I may use the term people tend to describe my music with—. This definitely isn't something that bothers everyone, but for people that are looking form the outside, it looks hostile at times. I had a talk at FOSDEM with some people from the Arch community, and they brought up some pretty good topics.
I don't know a solution to this, but I think it's safe to assume we should provide a welcoming place for people looking at the Nix community for the first time. And honestly, I think the Discourse forum already is that place. Fixing the "people are too forward" problem on other platforms is almost impossible to avoid. But we can make sure that when people look at Nix, they see the friendly community we are. | 12:50:46 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone |
Can we just examine what the Arch community fosters for a moment? Lol. | 12:51:08 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Are Arch people particularly polite such that we should be learning something from them? | 12:51:20 |