| 24 Jul 2021 |
 David Arnold (blaggacao) | Maybe as a first step, we need to promote general acknowledgment of the need? | 15:24:28 |
 kunrooted | I agree | 15:24:39 |
| kunrooted | the question is - how? | 15:24:56 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Well, within the community, we have an issue with "hierarchy", "responsibility" and "decision making" (intransparent, non-existent, inefficient). | 15:25:46 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | So some sort of soft categorization of actors to give a little bit of clear structure to the playing field might yield the community itself some tangible benefits. | 15:26:48 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | While at the same time, I think we can clearly hear the pain of recruiters who say things like: "if you filter for nix expertise on linkedin, only 100 people around the world show up." | 15:27:56 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Companies who decide to work with nix are basically screwed. | 15:28:18 |
| kunrooted | when it comes to companies working with Nix - I did my part, some of my company's projects are made as flakes B)
I can help make Nix more recognized at least in my little community and customer base | 15:29:11 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | And then, certifications might tend to raise salaries, but not sure if that's an issue for nix developers. 😂 | 15:29:20 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Looks like a triple win for individuals, companies and the community, or do I see everything too much painted in rose? 😎😂 | 15:30:33 |
| kunrooted | nope, it is indeed a triple win | 15:30:50 |
| kunrooted | or maybe we both see everything too much painted in rose 🤣 | 15:31:09 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Maybe we can start with the individuals, since they are the constituting jody of both, companies and community. | 15:33:38 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | An argument could be: ceritification lowers the transactional counterparty risk associated with hiring and therefore increases your carrer chances. (Explained in more palatable english). | 15:34:30 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * An argument could be: ceritification lowers the transactional counterparty risk associated with hiring and therefore systemically increases your carrer chances. (Explained in more palatable english). | 15:34:46 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * An argument could be: certification lowers the transactional counterparty risk associated with hiring and therefore systemically increases your carrer chances. (Explained in more palatable english). | 15:34:52 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Although I don't see a problem, at all, for nixers getting hired. 😎😂 | 15:35:36 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | But maybe currently, the options are a bit limited? | 15:36:08 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * But maybe currently, the options (where to work) are a bit limited? | 15:36:25 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * But maybe currently, the options (where to work) are a bit limited, while the community and workforce is growing? _will salaries go down if we don't recruit more companies for the ecosystem?_ | 15:37:09 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | In any case, if such certification should emerge, we should make sure that it is attached to community interests, for example, in order for the certification to remain valid, a certain measurable community contribution per year is required. | 16:02:04 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Maybe an (informational) RFC is the right place to dig in those cornerstones deep into the discussion? | 16:02:46 |
| kunrooted | In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
Maybe we can start with the individuals, since they are the constituting jody of both, companies and community. I can help promoting and reaching out to companies who can take positively on such certification | 16:48:26 |
| kunrooted | In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
In any case, if such certification should emerge, we should make sure that it is attached to community interests, for example, in order for the certification to remain valid, a certain measurable community contribution per year is required. Makes sense and sounds reasonable, for example when it comes to gun license, in order to keep it valid - you have to participate in at least 3 conquests (? dunno if it's the right word) per year/pay a fine. Anyway, this sounds OK with me and I agree with you. Tho I can also add an option of paying a fine/retaking an exam after some time. | 16:50:12 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | All the better, that there is a precedent! 😃 | 16:56:37 |
 andi- | unsubscribe | 16:56:50 |
| 28 Jul 2021 |
|  stick changed their display name from prusnak to stick. | 15:09:42 |
 nbathum (he or they) | What are the preferred hashtags for nix/<nixpkgs>/NixOS? | 21:41:19 |
 jonringer | nixos is probably the best for SEO, then again, I don't do twitter :( | 21:42:04 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | In reply to @jonringer:matrix.org
nixos is probably the best for SEO, then again, I don't do twitter :( Funny enough, there's very very very little on #NixOS via Twitter. | 21:47:35 |
