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26 May 2024
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr¯\_(ツ)_/¯04:22:34
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldr

We want to strive to create and foster community by providing an intentionally welcoming and safe environment where all feel valued and cared for, and where all are given opportunity to participate meaningfully.

04:22:46
@samueldr:matrix.orgsamueldrglad to see a place where harrassers are free to participate in this welcoming and safe environment is still not subject to removal04:24:06
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@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418 joined the room.08:35:01
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418
In reply to @djacu:matrix.org
Also can we schedule a meeting for next week since the release is coming up?
when is the next meeting?
08:36:07
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomWell, good morning 08:40:32
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomWhat have I missed? 08:40:38
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoom
In reply to @nat418:matrix.org
when is the next meeting?
5th of June
08:41:25
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoom9pm CET08:41:35
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418 per the concerns of samueldr and hexa I have a PR that does what I think is actually reasonable here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1441 08:49:37
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418I am willing to add in the other stuff other people wanted, but I think it would be good to reflect on whether or not all that is actually needed08:49:58
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomSo removing Reddit is a thing that was mostly agreed on, Discord was discussed but not really agreed on, but why did you remove Mastodon, Twitter and stack overflow? The discussion came up with a better solution there09:02:12
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418
In reply to @avocadoom:avocadoom.de
So removing Reddit is a thing that was mostly agreed on, Discord was discussed but not really agreed on, but why did you remove Mastodon, Twitter and stack overflow? The discussion came up with a better solution there
The Mastodon, Twitter, and Stack overflow links aren't really communities but just like hashtags or search results
09:12:50
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418SO in particular is in a deep downward spiral 09:13:05
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418Twitter link doesn't work anymore since Musk API changes09:13:21
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418and mastodon is just a hashtag09:13:32
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418I don't think people need to be told that they can search the word "nixos" on SO or lookup a hashtag. I don't see any value-add09:14:27
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418 * I don't think people need to be told that they can search the word "nixos" on SO or lookup a hashtag on X . I don't see any value-add09:14:41
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418I am planning to add back some of the "unofficial" stuff later but I need to take my kid to the playground09:15:14
@nat418:matrix.orgnat-418I basically un-drafted the PR so I could get feedback 09:15:32
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoom
In reply to @nat418:matrix.org
I don't think people need to be told that they can search the word "nixos" on SO or lookup a hashtag on X . I don't see any value-add
The issue suggested maybe switching the hashtags for the Nixos profiles
09:24:39
@garbas:matrix.orggarbas
In reply to @avocadoom:avocadoom.de
So removing Reddit is a thing that was mostly agreed on, Discord was discussed but not really agreed on, but why did you remove Mastodon, Twitter and stack overflow? The discussion came up with a better solution there
Reddit links stays as do other unofficial links. We will mark them as unofficial.
09:56:43
@garbas:matrix.orggarbas* Reddit links stays as do other unofficial links. We will mark them as unofficial and make it obvious what is moderated and what is not.09:57:19
@garbas:matrix.orggarbasA community in the eyes of marketing is different what community is in the eyes of moderation. We need to show and will where different parts of the community are. There are definitely problems with nixos reddit, but if anybody thinks unlinking them from nixos org will solve the problem they are wrong. We have already more than half a year of evidence to support this. Unlinking to nixos reddit should not be the first step and right now new users receive more support there than anywhere else. Especially for those who are regulars on that platform.10:02:40
@qyliss:fairydust.space@qyliss:fairydust.spaceI've never heard of a marketing team before that doesn't care at all about brand image in the way that this one seems not to. Usually marketers are very careful about what gets associated with their brand.10:05:40
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomI personally cannot accept the accusation that I am not making an effort to improve the image of the board... This is just a brutally heated discussion and getting everyone to a conclusion is just not that easy 10:34:35
@qyliss:fairydust.space@qyliss:fairydust.spaceSorry, that's not what I meant.10:35:03
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoom* I personally cannot accept the accusation that I am not making an effort to improve the image of the brand... This is just a brutally heated discussion and getting everyone to a conclusion is just not that easy 10:35:30
@qyliss:fairydust.space@qyliss:fairydust.spaceWhat I meant was that definitive statements like locking the issue, definitively saying "Reddit links stays" when that doesn't even seem to be consensus among members of the team, etc. create this impression of the team. I did not mean that I think this is what the members of the team actually personally think.10:39:03

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