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11 Mar 2024
@raboof:matrix.orgraboof(I hear there's more treads about it but I can't look at it more right now)08:40:08
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.orgYes and the discourse has already escaped the community bubble and this is a disaster08:44:15
@janik0:matrix.org@janik0:matrix.org
In reply to @raboof:matrix.org
(I hear there's more treads about it but I can't look at it more right now)

just to list a few:

  • https://mastodon.delroth.net/@delroth/112074390073132338
  • https://mastodon.catgirl.cloud/@sophie/112072998074428328
  • https://hachyderm.io/@jakehamilton/112073337733990629
  • https://akko.wtf/objects/e2bec5ce-efd2-4d5d-aca3-02f2da0b26d3

A lot of very active community members (myself included) are disappointed that anduril was allowed to sponsor again, esp. after last years debacle.

08:53:18
@raboof:matrix.orgraboofSome heads-up/statement beforehand would have been nice, unless I missed it...09:00:23
@janik0:matrix.org@janik0:matrix.org the only talk about the nixcon na sponsorship was https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-board-meeting-minutes-2024-01-02-2024-02-03/39994#h-2024-01-30-20 which was a in person meeting excluding everyone not able to attend the conference, but this is more a discussion for #foundation:nixos.org. There was a few sponsorship discussions in #nixcon-sponsor-discussion:nixos.org but that died out at some point. 09:02:36
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekTo avoid speculation, I can answer any questions about NixConNA sponsorship as I was involved in much of the process and kept track of things. But please do so either in a thread or DM to keep things coordinated and to avoid miscommunication.14:48:03
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienThe only question I personally have would be why and how was the decision taken to have Anduril as a sponsor for NixCon NA when that same decision created a big controversy 6 months ago for NixCon EU to the point that the sponsorship was dropped.14:50:54
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberek

How:

  • policy discussion in Fall/Winter
  • no official policy adopted, I proposed one and said we would use it in the interim
  • When sponsorship came up, we reached out to as many potential sponsors as possible.
  • Brought up the consideration with the NixConNA team.
  • Brought up the consideration with our hosts, SCALE
  • When Anduril suggested they would be willing to sponsor; I yet again checked with NixConNA team
  • then checked with the Board if this would want to proceed given the history and sensitivity

Why:

  • no clear policy reason to avoid, no "Zivilklausel" due to the venue
  • no policy proposal under consideration that would disallow
  • the Board can refuse, and was discussed and decided
  • Personally; I don't think the mere avoidance of controversy is a strong enough reason to have unstated policies and selective decisions made. We should establish a policy-driven methodology for decision making. Perhaps avoiding controversy can be a policy, though I do not necessarily recommend it.
15:17:09
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org tomberek: Can I quote this in https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixcon-na-2024-is-getting-sponsored-by-anduril-what-to-do-about-it/41258 to provide further context there? 20:14:48
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekIf you think it would help, that's fine, and my offer to directly answer any questions still stands. I appreciate that this is a heated topic.20:19:31
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@0x4a6f:matrix.org[0x4A6F]
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Next up. Banners? Anyone have any or know of a good source?
We had one made in 2019, but the link doesn't work anymore. It's a PVC sheet like these.
22:10:46
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekWe're pretty much out of time. I think the our best bet it to go to a local print shop when we get there. Thanks though. 22:15:36
12 Mar 2024
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@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil I see that https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1330 was incorporated into the new website via https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1332. Can it also be merged to master then? Ccgarbas thilobillerbeck (avocadoom) 23:14:03
@garbas:matrix.orggarbas infinisil: no need. we're just about to do the switch. 23:14:27
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilOh damn, neat!23:14:38
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilLike minutes/hours or tomorrow at the marketing team meeting?23:15:55
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomMinutes I guess23:23:16
@garbas:matrix.orggarbasin minutes :)23:27:09
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomdone23:31:43
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilNice, congrats!23:33:59
@garbas:matrix.orggarbaswell we broke search.nixos.org, but fix is on the way23:45:42
13 Mar 2024
@janik0:matrix.org@janik0:matrix.orgSorry I won't be able to make it to the marketing meeting. I need some time to collect my thoughts after how the open board call went and consider how much time I want to spent on this community. 18:00:20
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilPretty bad regression: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/133819:03:20
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil garbas: thilobillerbeck (avocadoom): ^ 19:03:43
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomyuck19:04:07
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