| 11 Mar 2024 |
raboof | (I hear there's more treads about it but I can't look at it more right now) | 08:40:08 |
@piegames:matrix.org | Yes and the discourse has already escaped the community bubble and this is a disaster | 08:44:15 |
@janik0:matrix.org | In reply to @raboof:matrix.org (I hear there's more treads about it but I can't look at it more right now) just to list a few:
- https://mastodon.delroth.net/@delroth/112074390073132338
- https://mastodon.catgirl.cloud/@sophie/112072998074428328
- https://hachyderm.io/@jakehamilton/112073337733990629
- https://akko.wtf/objects/e2bec5ce-efd2-4d5d-aca3-02f2da0b26d3
A lot of very active community members (myself included) are disappointed that anduril was allowed to sponsor again, esp. after last years debacle.
| 08:53:18 |
raboof | Some heads-up/statement beforehand would have been nice, unless I missed it... | 09:00:23 |
@janik0:matrix.org | the only talk about the nixcon na sponsorship was https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-board-meeting-minutes-2024-01-02-2024-02-03/39994#h-2024-01-30-20 which was a in person meeting excluding everyone not able to attend the conference, but this is more a discussion for #foundation:nixos.org. There was a few sponsorship discussions in #nixcon-sponsor-discussion:nixos.org but that died out at some point. | 09:02:36 |
tomberek | To avoid speculation, I can answer any questions about NixConNA sponsorship as I was involved in much of the process and kept track of things. But please do so either in a thread or DM to keep things coordinated and to avoid miscommunication. | 14:48:03 |
Julien | The only question I personally have would be why and how was the decision taken to have Anduril as a sponsor for NixCon NA when that same decision created a big controversy 6 months ago for NixCon EU to the point that the sponsorship was dropped. | 14:50:54 |
tomberek | How:
- policy discussion in Fall/Winter
- no official policy adopted, I proposed one and said we would use it in the interim
- When sponsorship came up, we reached out to as many potential sponsors as possible.
- Brought up the consideration with the NixConNA team.
- Brought up the consideration with our hosts, SCALE
- When Anduril suggested they would be willing to sponsor; I yet again checked with NixConNA team
- then checked with the Board if this would want to proceed given the history and sensitivity
Why:
- no clear policy reason to avoid, no "Zivilklausel" due to the venue
- no policy proposal under consideration that would disallow
- the Board can refuse, and was discussed and decided
- Personally; I don't think the mere avoidance of controversy is a strong enough reason to have unstated policies and selective decisions made. We should establish a policy-driven methodology for decision making. Perhaps avoiding controversy can be a policy, though I do not necessarily recommend it.
| 15:17:09 |
@piegames:matrix.org | tomberek: Can I quote this in https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixcon-na-2024-is-getting-sponsored-by-anduril-what-to-do-about-it/41258 to provide further context there? | 20:14:48 |
tomberek | If you think it would help, that's fine, and my offer to directly answer any questions still stands. I appreciate that this is a heated topic. | 20:19:31 |
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[0x4A6F] | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org Next up. Banners? Anyone have any or know of a good source? We had one made in 2019, but the link doesn't work anymore. It's a PVC sheet like these. | 22:10:46 |
tomberek | We're pretty much out of time. I think the our best bet it to go to a local print shop when we get there. Thanks though. | 22:15:36 |
| 12 Mar 2024 |
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infinisil | I see that https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1330 was incorporated into the new website via https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1332. Can it also be merged to master then? Ccgarbas thilobillerbeck (avocadoom) | 23:14:03 |
garbas | infinisil: no need. we're just about to do the switch. | 23:14:27 |
infinisil | Oh damn, neat! | 23:14:38 |
infinisil | Like minutes/hours or tomorrow at the marketing team meeting? | 23:15:55 |
avocadoom | Minutes I guess | 23:23:16 |
garbas | in minutes :) | 23:27:09 |
avocadoom | done | 23:31:43 |
infinisil | Nice, congrats! | 23:33:59 |
garbas | well we broke search.nixos.org, but fix is on the way | 23:45:42 |
| 13 Mar 2024 |
@janik0:matrix.org | Sorry I won't be able to make it to the marketing meeting. I need some time to collect my thoughts after how the open board call went and consider how much time I want to spent on this community. | 18:00:20 |
infinisil | Pretty bad regression: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1338 | 19:03:20 |
infinisil | garbas: thilobillerbeck (avocadoom): ^ | 19:03:43 |
avocadoom | yuck | 19:04:07 |
avocadoom | merged | 19:04:26 |