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26 Oct 2023
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk

however you spin it, in person meetings excludes those who can not come.

No doubt.

i understand you find them efficient because you can be there. but not all have the luxury to go there.

I know very well what it means not to be able to be present where the action is, and I appreciate just as much that it's a luxury most can't afford for a number of reasons.

Fact is though, there will always be in-person meetings, and we'll have to figure out how to make the best of all kinds of interactions that happen.

11:30:50
@rossturk:matrix.orgrossturkI think the most important element of an in-person meeting in a community context like this is documentation. If the people participating clearly communicate what was discussed and work to establish a subsequent discussion in online channels, that goes a long way.16:55:33
27 Oct 2023
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28 Oct 2023
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacu Hey team
I'm looking at the nixos-homepage main branch and trying to figure out how people are starting the astro dev environment. The only thing I see in the flake is a package for building the site the old way. Am I missing something?
18:42:47
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekHome page needs some help, perhaps with someone with permissions: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/issues/113820:16:52
29 Oct 2023
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
In reply to @djacu:matrix.org
Hey team
I'm looking at the nixos-homepage main branch and trying to figure out how people are starting the astro dev environment. The only thing I see in the flake is a package for building the site the old way. Am I missing something?
that's not happening on main, but on astro/* branches
10:39:39
@raboof:matrix.orgraboofI'm not sure if Hacker News is still a thing, I never really followed it, but I must admit it's kinda satisfying to see https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-reproducible-builds-minimal-installation-iso-successfully-independently-rebuilt/34756 take the #2 frontpage spot for a while :) . The comments aren't even all that terrible.17:00:00
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30 Oct 2023
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacu
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
that's not happening on main, but on astro/* branches
I took a look at the branches and the only active one I see is astro/landingpage which hasn't change the flake.nix file significantly. So I'm still confused as to how people are developing astro components and testing them without astro available.
03:53:17
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@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoom
In reply to @djacu:matrix.org
I took a look at the branches and the only active one I see is astro/landingpage which hasn't change the flake.nix file significantly. So I'm still confused as to how people are developing astro components and testing them without astro available.
Uhm, this is mine but I didn't touch the flake.nix actively. Maybe direnv did some magic?
20:26:18
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomAstro is an npm dependency and is installed through `npm install`. It's not a thing you have to install globally like hugo or jekyll.20:27:23
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoom* Astro is an npm module and is installed through `npm install`. It's not a thing you have to install globally like hugo or jekyll.20:27:39
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoom* Astro is an npm module. It's not a thing you have to install globally like hugo or jekyll.20:27:52
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomBut I wonder why your CI breaks when feature branches break. This seems counterintuitive.20:28:48
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacu
In reply to @avocadoom:avocadoom.de
Astro is an npm module. It's not a thing you have to install globally like hugo or jekyll.
Yeah I got word back from garbas . npm install and npm run dev. I was looking for a devShell from npmlock2nix or something like it.
21:29:58
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomImo as long as you are not packaging a node app using npnlock2nix doesn't really make sense 21:38:17
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomAnd since the output is static there is no nix related build process needed. I tried this for NixCon Website and with modern SSGs this just shoots you in the foot at every secound corner, since most fetch images and others things or external API data from a CMS for example.21:40:20
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoomBut the node Version is pinned, so we are all on the same runtime, which in combination with the npm lockfile should be enough 21:44:40
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacuI built my personal site using astro and npmlock2nix and had a similar experience. Using nix really limited the packages I could use because package authors would try to fetch random things at build time. I did get it running tho22:02:43
31 Oct 2023
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusHello marketing team, I would like to work on the newsletter, who I should speak with that?11:45:27
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI have been wanting to run my own NixOS newsletter for a while11:45:34
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI am mostly interested in a newsletter targeted for people working in NixOS/Nixpkgs/Nix/ecosystem of11:45:51
@kranzes:matrix.org@kranzes:matrix.org According to this post
https://discourse.nixos.org/t/marketing-team-update-for-july-june-2023/31238
It's IdaBzo and garbas, though I remembered it being djacu at some point
14:54:04
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacuI worked on the what's new in nix videos for a bit but not the newsletter.17:30:16
1 Nov 2023
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas Chevalier
In reply to @garbas:matrix.org

Jonas Chevalier: I would really like to understand what goals would you like to achieve with a more focused branding strategy.

Just so you understand current goals of the marketing team: (1) attract new nixers - OUTreach (2) engage community to collaborate - INreach, i know it is not a word but i think you will understand :)

If you would ask me what is the most urgent task at hand that we are struggling to do I think I was laud at the NixCon about it. We need to rework the website. We already have a messaging plan and the vision/strategy after that, but it is hard to do the first step, since it is not small amount of effort.

I think this is a bit more upstream and complementary.

What a good branding strategy does for you is to provide clarity. it helps establish things like what is our identity, tone, value proposition, what are our values, ... that helps create a tone, more consistent feel, and communicate more clearly.

As developers, we tend to view the website in terms of functional changes only, and it's hard to get the website right without these other dimensions.

Same with the social media posts. The branding strategy can act as a filter and give a more directed feeling to the posts.

Does that make sense?

09:22:17
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas ChevalierAs part of the work on the S3 cache GC, we discovered that the vast majority of our Fastly traffic is coming from North America. We are wondering if this could be mostly GitHub traffic. Would anybody like to work with the various upstream nix install actions to get them to add the "user-agent-suffix" to their Nix config? That would allow us to parse the logs and make that distinction more easily. Bonus point if the user-agent includes which github org is using the cache, and we can then approach them for sponsorship :)10:15:47
2 Nov 2023
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas Chevalier * As part of the work on the S3 cache GC, we discovered that the vast majority of our Fastly traffic is coming from North America. We are wondering if this could be mostly GitHub traffic. Would anybody like to work with the various upstream nix install actions to get them to add the "user-agent-suffix" to their Nix config? That would allow us to parse the logs and make that distinction more easily. Bonus point if the user-agent includes which github org is using the cache, and we can then approach them for sponsorship :) => https://github.com/cachix/install-nix-action/issues/19807:39:12
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius Jonas Chevalier: can we announce it more broadly on Discourse? 14:18:07
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusSo that people are not surprised14:18:13

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