| 28 Jun 2021 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | tomberek: I've got an opportunity to show Nix off on Innovation Coffee thanks to that Nix room. | 19:19:45 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | it's an arm-centric arm developer show that gets around 1000 views average | 19:20:00 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I'll be showing off a lot of stuff. It will be great. | 19:20:47 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | riscv64 cross-compilation, nixos services, WFVM, the works. | 19:21:09 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | WFVM is just astounding.. I can't really believe how well it works | 19:21:17 |
 afontain | TIL about https://git.m-labs.hk/M-Labs/wfvm | 20:39:11 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | it's pretty darn good | 20:56:02 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I gotta fork it to work with flakes, I did some hacking on it on stream a few nights ago | 20:56:17 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * I gotta fork it to work with flakes, I did some hacking on it on stream last night ago | 20:56:21 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * I gotta fork it to work with flakes, I did some hacking on it on stream last night | 20:56:23 |
| 29 Jun 2021 |
|  moritz.hedtke joined the room. | 00:59:34 |
 davidak | FYI: this is how a linux distro with immutable root and appimage apps present itself
https://rlxos.dev/
it seem to exist since may this year (?) and is already more user friendly than nixos. it has a graphical installer, welcome-tour app, graphical package manager and using it looks straight forward | 21:18:08 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Fancy website, no tech. | 21:19:09 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Bad English. | 21:19:12 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I mean, sure, nice website. | 21:19:26 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | It takes investigation to understand Nix. This will always be the case. | 21:19:36 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | However, I can tell you, I knew NixOS was the best, before I understood it. | 21:19:45 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I'm not saying there is no room for improvement. What I am saying is that what we have right now absolutely captivates people. | 21:20:06 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | All we need to do is let people know about it. The website as it is today is a great blend of tech/normie | 21:20:31 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Those asciinema videos we have on the front page blow people's minds. | 21:21:04 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone |
enable us to have the portable appimages that doesn't need installation or package management
| 21:21:37 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | This is just bad. There is no world in which I want Nix to lie about the system like that :D | 21:21:48 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * This is just bad. There is no world in which I want Nix to lie about the system like that in marketing material, for example :D | 21:21:56 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * Fancy website, no tech explanation attempted. | 21:22:53 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | The points made about the graphical package management, welcome-tour and stuff, very valid, and I think that's something Nix needs, for sure. | 21:23:57 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | https://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/o6807i/nixgui_work_in_progress_configure_your_system/ | 21:24:38 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Nix's primitives allow for something like this to exist. It just won't be possible to have rich control over the system without it. | 21:25:54 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | flatpaks, appimages, docker, they don't change your dns settings. They don't configure systemd. They don't let you set much of anything on the system really. | 21:26:23 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Reading through their docs, they have reinvented a lot of wheels. | 21:31:39 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | And I do not see any mention of system management, which is the key distinction. They only talk about package management, they don't mention anything about configuring the system. | 21:32:22 |
