| 30 Mar 2023 |
 tomberek | Haskell | 17:38:56 |
| tomberek | "avoid success at all costs" | 17:39:01 |
 @nixinator:nixos.dev | Do you think that’s a good thing for a marketing team to strive for . | 17:39:35 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * Do you think that’s a good thing for a marketing team to strive for . Lol. | 17:40:06 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | I think I know the sentiment … | 17:40:58 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | But maybe I don’t fully understand the context . | 17:41:17 |
| tomberek | In reply to @nixinator:nixos.dev
But maybe I don’t fully understand the context . https://youtu.be/re96UgMk6GQ?t=1383 | 17:43:29 |
| 31 Mar 2023 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | Ok, so for nix , do you think 20 years is enough to avoid success . | 02:57:23 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Redacted or Malformed Event | 04:36:04 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Whoops, wrong channel ;D | 04:46:44 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
https://youtu.be/re96UgMk6GQ?t=1383 Ok , I understand now it has been being being devekoped for 20 years, flakes change the game. It’s now time to upgrade this bit of philosophy from Haskell .I want nix to be successful no matter what the cost. | 07:39:02 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | The nixos marking faq says ‘we always avoid success’ as the terminator would say ‘WRONG’ | 07:41:38 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * The nixos marking faq says ‘we always avoid success’ as the terminator would say ‘WRONG’ lol | 07:41:59 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * Ok , I understand now it has been being developed for 20 years, flakes change the game. It’s now time to upgrade this bit of philosophy from Haskell .I want nix to be successful no matter what the cost. | 07:45:04 |
 @gdesforges:matrix.org | In reply to @nixinator:nixos.dev
Ok , I understand now it has been being developed for 20 years, flakes change the game. It’s now time to upgrade this bit of philosophy from Haskell .I want nix to be successful no matter what the cost. I agree that Nix does not have to "avoid success at any cost". Unlike Haskell, Nix is very simple. We can look at code from 5, 10, 20 years from now and understand it/run it. Also it's not that much about research anymore. So Nix does not have the same issues and questions.
We can take what Nix is now and make it successful. | 07:48:59 |
| @gdesforges:matrix.org | However, that might be different for NixOS. Would a symlink at /bin/bash make it more successful? I bet, yes. Is it the best solution? Many people argue it is not. Should we cut corners to facilitate adoption ? Maybe | 07:50:31 |
| @gdesforges:matrix.org | In any case, as i understand, it's not about the tech. The marketing is about getting people into the adoption funnel and provide feedback on that funnel | 07:51:24 |
| @gdesforges:matrix.org | * In any case, as i understand, it's not about the tech. The marketing is about getting people into the adoption funnel and provide feedback on that funnel to the other teams | 07:51:37 |
| @gdesforges:matrix.org | (i can be corrected here) | 07:52:06 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | What I’ve been hearing in the field , you are essentially right. | 07:52:47 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | I believe the front page of nixos.org should say. Nix, it beats the pants off everything else. | 07:55:50 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | Simple. | 07:56:11 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | Not my words | 07:56:42 |
| @gdesforges:matrix.org | In reply to @nixinator:nixos.dev
I believe the front page of nixos.org should say. Nix, it beats the pants off everything else. That I disagree. You don't become great by belittling others. You show, don't tell. | 07:57:57 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0uixRE8xlbY : 16:34 | 07:59:03 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | Really? This Belittling language is quite common place here. Who coined that ? | 07:59:47 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | You don’t need to tell me I I know. | 08:00:21 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * You don’t need to tell me I know. | 08:00:32 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | Anyway gotta goto work… toodle pip . | 08:00:52 |
| @gdesforges:matrix.org | I'm fresh and new so you do need to tell me "who coined that" and we can work on it together. | 08:01:57 |
