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 garbas | * and last one... tell it as a personal story. like your journey, your struggles, your pain,... | 22:04:24 |
| garbas | in suffering is when we engineers usually connect and relate :) | 22:04:52 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | A meme comes to mind https://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/smc41y/the_difference_is_night_and_day/ | 22:05:53 |
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 hexa | raboof: https://chaos.social/@hexa/109370740475801389 | 14:40:14 |
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| hexa | hiho! https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-search/pull/573 | 11:32:49 |
| hexa | 🦝 | 11:32:59 |
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 davidak | here is a suggestion for an april fools joke about switching nix-lang
https://chaos.social/@kouhai@treehouse.systems/109402938704783180
https://kdl.dev/ | 06:26:23 |
| davidak | * here is a suggestion for an april fools joke about switching nix-lang
https://chaos.social/@kouhai@treehouse.systems/109402938704783180
https://kdl.dev/
on april 2. we could add an update to explain why nix-lang is actually good for what we do and YAML etc wouldn't work. many people in that thread ask... and even i did https://discourse.nixos.org/t/why-not-use-yaml-for-configuration-and-package-declaration/1333 | 06:28:45 |
| davidak | * here is a suggestion for an april fools joke about switching nix-lang
https://chaos.social/@kouhai@treehouse.systems/109402938704783180
https://kdl.dev/
on april 2. we could add an update to explain why nix-lang is actually good for what we do and YAML etc wouldn't work. many people in that thread ask... and even i did https://discourse.nixos.org/t/why-not-use-yaml-for-configuration-and-package-declaration/1333
and the meta joke can be, that we actually switch to Nickel (if that proves to be better) a month later | 06:30:40 |
 @rapenne-s:tchncs.de | Is it only my feeling? Since a few weeks, the Fediverse network size increased a lot, #nixos tag is very active now, but it seems it's mostly people getting into threads and pushing nixos / nix with a lot of zeal :/ My feeling is this is counterproductive :( | 08:10:55 |
| tea | is nickel on that stability level? | 12:52:20 |
| tea | Lord, please save us from having to use a language that's sensitive to whitespace | 12:53:18 |
|  find me at @ryan:freumh.org changed their display name from Ryan Gibb to find me at @ryan:freumh.org. | 13:33:39 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | In reply to @rapenne-s:tchncs.de
Is it only my feeling? Since a few weeks, the Fediverse network size increased a lot, #nixos tag is very active now, but it seems it's mostly people getting into threads and pushing nixos / nix with a lot of zeal :/ My feeling is this is counterproductive :( All publicity is good publicity they say. It's better to be pushed with zeal than not at all. But I understand that sometimes it can give things a bad rep. If it makes people check nixos.org out though, I don't think it can be too bad, because they will understand more once they check out the official sources of information. | 16:09:22 |
| @rapenne-s:tchncs.de | In reply to @matthewcroughan:defenestrate.it
All publicity is good publicity they say. It's better to be pushed with zeal than not at all. But I understand that sometimes it can give things a bad rep. If it makes people check nixos.org out though, I don't think it can be too bad, because they will understand more once they check out the official sources of information. Maybe we need our own recurring joke like Arch with "btw I use arch" 😁 | 17:37:30 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | In reply to @rapenne-s:tchncs.de
Maybe we need our own recurring joke like Arch with "btw I use arch" 😁 That's a good example of where it originally gave a bad rep, but nowadays it's fun | 17:38:10 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | NIXOS_INFECT their minds | 17:39:05 |
| @rapenne-s:tchncs.de | We need to iron out a catch phrase =D | 17:39:36 |
| @rapenne-s:tchncs.de | This thread has been very interesting https://sueden.social/@n0r/109399376559253900 I didn't know and realize Nix wasn't a good experience outside of NixOS, as an alternative of Flatpak or Snap | 17:40:05 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | In reply to @rapenne-s:tchncs.de
This thread has been very interesting https://sueden.social/@n0r/109399376559253900 I didn't know and realize Nix wasn't a good experience outside of NixOS, as an alternative of Flatpak or Snap It's very good, and we could distribute our own nixpak format very very easily. But the problem is that it would defeat the purpose of Nix in many ways, because it would destroy garbage collection and sharing in the store. | 17:41:41 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I can give you a zipped up /nix/store that contains only the references to the paths you need to run pkgs.hello, and it may only be like 30M, but that means if I ship you hello 2.0 vs hello 3.0, you'll have two 30M files instead of any kind of sharing | 17:42:19 |
| @rapenne-s:tchncs.de | how will this integrates better for GUI programs to run in X ? | 17:43:16 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | So you either have:
- Statically linked binaries
- Dynamically linked binaries with the
/nix/store given to you like an appimage just for this one copy of the binary
- An actual /nix/store on the device that we've infected their system with
| 17:43:28 |
| @rapenne-s:tchncs.de | * how would it integrate better for GUI programs to run in X ? | 17:43:29 |
