| 2 Mar 2023 |
 evils | i'm planning on starting my workshop as an extension of the Q&A of the Nix introduction talk before it (bjth's talk, not mine)
which as far as i recall doesn't make any claims | 23:03:02 |
 jeremiahs | For sake of brevity please look at the nixos.org learn page. | 23:04:12 |
| jeremiahs | Tell me what you see? | 23:04:23 |
| evils | are you planning on doing an in person course or is this more of an online written thing? | 23:04:36 |
| evils | hmm, i don't seem to have linked this here yet, some very rough thoughts
https://gitlab.com/evils/talk-of-nix | 23:04:59 |
| evils | In reply to @jeremiahs:matrix.org
Tell me what you see? no overview of the ecosystem | 23:05:42 |
| jeremiahs | In reply to @evils:nixos.dev
are you planning on doing an in person course or is this more of an online written thing? Online and interactive, written with examples and quizes. With an overall goal of covering common pain points and confusions in packaging. | 23:07:00 |
| jeremiahs | In reply to @evils:nixos.dev
no overview of the ecosystem Right, I also see people clicking off instantly. | 23:07:21 |
| jeremiahs | I do have to step away. Feel free to dm me. | 23:09:39 |
| evils | Unfortunately I really need to go sleep, and my desktop froze again... | 23:10:10 |
| jeremiahs | In reply to @evils:nixos.dev
Unfortunately I really need to go sleep, and my desktop froze again... take care! | 23:10:54 |
| evils | ok, desktop's back up | 23:15:23 |
| evils | just gonna leave an open question here:
what's this channel's opinion on which channel is more appropriate for discussing introductory material
this one or the documentation one? | 23:16:02 |
| 3 Mar 2023 |
 hexa | https://jvns.ca/blog/2023/02/28/some-notes-on-using-nix/ | 03:59:28 |
| hexa | we are this famous | 03:59:31 |
| hexa | * we are this famous please reshare raboof et al 🙂 | 04:00:30 |
| hexa | * we are this famous please boost raboof et al 🙂 | 04:00:35 |
 raboof | Boosted https://social.jvns.ca/@b0rk/109948467745261738 🎉 | 07:53:21 |
| raboof | (not super thrilled that it recommends nix-env instead of nix-shell, but 🤷) | 07:56:36 |
 davidak | raboof: nix-env is what the documentation teaches users. it's up to the documentation team to improve that
https://discourse.nixos.org/t/new-users-using-nixos-wrong/9973 | 10:45:48 |
| davidak | (new) users use nixos wrong and it's our fault | 10:46:53 |
| raboof | No argument there (though imho "we are all the documentation team" 😆) | 10:49:50 |
| davidak | yes, but we also have one now. and the first thing i asked for at that time, an intuitive installer, is now there | 10:50:46 |
| davidak | the second part, onboarding, is still missing | 10:50:57 |
| davidak | that should really boost adoption! i think for nix the situation is improving | 10:51:24 |
| davidak | https://social.jvns.ca/@b0rk/109944259361119274 | 10:55:33 |
| davidak | maybe we also need something like a community manager or PR or someone or team that tells the community how to communicate about nixos. i see posts of nixos fans in social media that hurt our reputation, like annoying people that claim it's superior to everything (like the typical arch user meme) and those that recommend nixos to linux beginners. i hope our website makes it clear they are wrong, that it's for beginners | 10:58:54 |
| davidak | * maybe we also need something like a community manager or PR or someone or team that tells the community how to communicate about nixos publicly. i see posts of nixos fans in social media that hurt our reputation, like annoying people that claim it's superior to everything (like the typical arch user meme) and those that recommend nixos to linux beginners. i hope our website makes it clear they are wrong, that it's for beginners | 10:59:16 |
| jeremiahs | Have you seen the YouTube channel noboilerplate? His format for his videos is elegant. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUMwY9iS8oMyWDYIe6_RmoA | 15:41:35 |
| jeremiahs | I was wondering if we could get videos about nix of the same caliber. | 15:42:46 |
